This actually isn't a half bad thread. Requires some thought. . .
Mace vs. Malak
This would be a close fight either way, resulting in a long, drawn out battle.
Lord Hoth vs. Darth Sidious
Same as above. I've recently reevaluated my stance on Sidious, so I think he has a chance here. Although for the hell of it, I'll say Hoth, after a hard fight.
Vodo-Siosk Bass vs. Darth Traya
*sigh* Another hard one. Vodo has stood up to Exar with a walking stick, so it's safe to say that he could best Traya in a duel. That includes Force powers, for Bass was said to be so powerful that he could amplify the strength and durability of his cane to the point that it could stop a lightsaber. That's some power right there.
So, Vodo takes out Kreia, and assists Mace with a victory against Malak. Following, the two help Lord Hoth vanquish Sidious. However it is paired up, the battles are close. But let's try a different one.
Mace Windu vs. Darth Traya
Surprise, surprise, hard duel. Mace has Traya greatly outclassed in the dueling department, but in terms of Force power, she's superior. She took out three Council members with a wave of her hand. Pretty good if you ask me. However, Mace could probably stall her for a few moments in Force techniques as well; he's definetely strong there, considering he's the second most powerful being in the Order. But if it comes to a duel, Kreia is screwed as hell.
Lord Hoth vs. Darth Malak
Malak's only advantage against Mace Windu, outside of his marginally better Force technique, and even that is debatable, is his size, and his vastly superior reach. The guy's swing has a minimum radius of seven, eight feet. And his superior physical strength would assist him somewhat as well. Those elements are completely lost here, as Lord Hoth is without a doubt stronger than Malak, and of course, an incredible duelist. He led the Army of Light in the Battle of Rusaan, a tribute to his power and skill as a fighter.
Vodo-Siosk Bass vs. Darth Sidious
Vodo most likely has this, although it would be a good fight. He's a strong duelist, using his (OMG!!!) walking stick, and no slouch in the Force department easier, capable of ampliyfing the durability of his cane his mind to the point where it can block lightsabers. Pretty good.
Don't think so linearally.
This is actual, on further inspection, a very lopsided match.
Why? Well, look at the characters and how they act:
On team one you have Sidious and Kreia, who are the sneakiest, evillest bastards with enough Force power to use almost any backdrop effectively. Team them up with Malak, who is a cosiderable duellist by reputation and is no slump in Force powers either, as demonstrated.
On team two you have three primarily melee guys. Vodo was a grandmaster of duelling, sure, and he did shrug off Exar Kun's Sith magic. However, he's the heaviest hitter here. Mace, while good, cannot steamroll anyone on the other team save for Sidious, in ideal situations. Realistically, with three Sith on one team and three jedi on the other, there will be no such situations. And Lord Hoth is reputedly good and smart, but how good he is is the biggest unknown in this thread. He was a leader among jedi, so he was at least on Mace's level, if perhaps a bit higher. And Vodo is quite a bit above both of them. But the Sith can better stall the melee assault and rip the conpetition to shreds. Putting Sidious and Kreia on a team is sick, and Malak simply gives them the stable rock they need to be a very very effective team.
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Is Kreia really as evil as Palpatine?
I don't think she was evil...just misguided and overall simply lacking anyone who really cared about her I certianly didn't when I played KOTOR 2 (the old hag) and I was a female(just for the Atton romance dioluges which are friggen hirlarious).
Originally posted by Lord Janus
Don't think so linearally.This is actual, on further inspection, a very lopsided match.
Why? Well, look at the characters and how they act:
On team one you have Sidious and Kreia, who are the sneakiest, evillest bastards with enough Force power to use almost any backdrop effectively. Team them up with Malak, who is a cosiderable duellist by reputation and is no slump in Force powers either, as demonstrated.
On team two you have three primarily melee guys. Vodo was a grandmaster of duelling, sure, and he did shrug off Exar Kun's Sith magic. However, he's the heaviest hitter here. Mace, while good, cannot steamroll anyone on the other team save for Sidious, in ideal situations. Realistically, with three Sith on one team and three jedi on the other, there will be no such situations. And Lord Hoth is reputedly good and smart, but how good he is is the biggest unknown in this thread. He was a leader among jedi, so he was at least on Mace's level, if perhaps a bit higher. And Vodo is quite a bit above both of them. But the Sith can better stall the melee assault and rip the conpetition to shreds. Putting Sidious and Kreia on a team is sick, and Malak simply gives them the stable rock they need to be a very very effective team.
My first response was in support of the Sith Lords, until it was edited. . .
Hm, perhaps you're right. Good points there, although any of these Jedi could likely hold their own against their respective enemies in a saberfest, although once Kreia brings out those uber Force powers, they're screwed. Perhaps only Vodo-Siosk bass stands a chance against her in both departments. He completely outclasses her in dueling skill, and likely can stand up to her in a Force battle. One can't be the mightiest Jedi of their time and not be damn good at Force techniques.
I suppose you're right, although I don't in any way think the Sith will win with absolutely no trouble. However, it does seem that Darth Traya's becoming the new Nihilus, the new Luke.
Well, with that instakill power she demonstrated, she is conceivably up there. And I have gotten tired of arguing groups of people versus people as brewing down to simply one on one- that's not accurate. I think we should instead evaluate them as a group, and debate group tactics and strengths, not so much individuals. Otherwise, why team them up?
Originally posted by Lord Janus
Well, with that instakill power she demonstrated, she is conceivably up there. And I have gotten tired of arguing groups of people versus people as brewing down to simply one on one- that's not accurate. I think we should instead evaluate them as a group, and debate group tactics and strengths, not so much individuals. Otherwise, why team them up?
You know, that's what I've always said. 2v2 is not a tournament style of 1v1, it's exactly like it says, TWO versus TWO.