The Force is strong in the Skywalker family.......

Well thay EU it ain't either. The skyhopper is clearly shown in the movies ANH and ROTJ. And why his skyhopper was grounded stood in the ANH novel. It was something about a race through beggar's canyon. And i read a piece of Shadows of the empire today in which it states he raced there before and that it was extremely dangerous. (podrace anyone?)

OK I realise that some of you are new but please dont run my thread off topic this way: skyhoppers? 😑

And DD there is no forum war, never has been one as far as Im concerned, we've been around for a year now. thumbsup

Ast, TRA is what it is, the deal in the sigs is there because up to now we've been private, but the plan was always to take the board public a few months after the release of ROTS. ✅

I know there's no war... I'm just teasing. 😄

Originally posted by Captain REX

Heh, I never really thought of that. Luke reaches Jedi Knight ranking pretty fast, if you think about it.

True... but if you think about it... Luke is already at the stages of being a man, so his maturity (if you discount his whining) probably allowed for a fast force ranking.

Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Leia is strong in the Force...

I would say this says the most about his strength in the Force. He was arguably more powerful than his father was as he learned so much a LOT faster, most of it self taught.

I do not believe it to be a plot hole, the Lars and the Organas were certainly not going to mention any 'unusual abilities' that the infants had to the neighbors at dinner. They were trying to avoid the scrutiny of the Emperor.

I agree with Kozzy; I do not think it is made out that Anakin was more precocious than Luke.

However, I believe QGJ simply meant that such people are identified medically.

And mention of the T-16 Skyhopper is not off-topic, JP, as it relates to the area in which Luke's precocious talent showed.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Yet, by the time ANH rolls around apparently Luke hasnt demonstrated anything remarkable at least nothing like his father did. Leia obviously has had zero force experience up until when Luke calls to her from Cloud City.

I think it's because of his insecurity and his uncle. If he had had similar experiences he certainly wouldn't have told him would he?
When we first meet Luke's uncle we immediately see he is the kind of sturdy and direct farmer who represses any fantasy Luke has for a different kind of life. I think that because he is so sensitive he might have been influenced psychologically by this. You'll notice that when he gets off Tatooine his powers quickly come to him.
As for Leia, we don't know much about her past (that's why I'd like to see Bail in the TV series 😉) but we do know she's a lot like mum, concentrating all of her abilities into politics. I think she is too focused on other things to discover her inner self, and when she finds herself in love with Han it's the first time she's not concentrating her feelings on everybody else. I believe that's why she's more sensitive by the end of TESB.

But Luke was a great pilot in ANH. In the radio drama's,
Luke wins a race by threading the stone needle. And
then on the falcon he quickly learns to block 3 - count 'em - 3
blasts from the remote! Now, anyone not force sensitive
could not have blocked them, no way, not blind anyway.

It's also possible that since Luke was the product of Anakin and Padme (aka two mortals) his talents were far more suppressed than that of Anakins. Remember that he had no mortal father.

I doubt that, look what Luke did within two days of knowing about the force, bye bye deathstar. And he barely had 3 months of Jedi training and he still took on Vader and won. and supposedly in the original script could already block lightning with his hands.

Although it doesn't say it in the movies, I'm sure Luke and Leia both had moments where they displayed talents. But they weren't racing pods now were they?
Luke was raised by two people who nothing of the force and wanted Luke to know nothing about it. And I'm sure Bail and his wife weren't going to try and get Leia a lightsaber.

What's really bugs me out is if the Force is really a genetic thing why isn't Obi-Wan's brother a Jedi. Or his father or mother or any of the other Jedi's family. That's a plot hole. He decided to make it pass from Anakin to Luke but never explains why it isn't that way in other families.

It's not genetic- the Skywalkers are just a special case.

Originally posted by SithHappens
What's really bugs me out is if the Force is really a genetic thing why isn't Obi-Wan's brother a Jedi. Or his father or mother or any of the other Jedi's family. That's a plot hole. He decided to make it pass from Anakin to Luke but never explains why it isn't that way in other families.

Obi's parents werent jedi, but Luke's father was.

What's really bugs me out is if the Force is really a genetic thing why isn't Obi-Wan's brother a Jedi. He decided to make it pass from Anakin to Luke but never explains why it isn't that way in other families.

Besides I don't need every little midichlorian explained to me... I don't want Yoda to break out a periodic table of the elements mid-sentence when he and Obi-wan are deciding what to do with the twins. The story is more important than a genetic mapping.

The Skywalkers are special.

Luke always had talent. The bullseyeing womprats thing was a direct reference to his innate talents. It was there for a reason.

Also, on his first ever mission, he blew up the death star. Isn't that talented enough for you?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
It's not genetic- the Skywalkers are just a special case.

True, but it is clear from Anakin's case that very strong Force potential tends to pass through genes.

Other Jedi such as Yoda and Mace were probably just a genetic anomaly and born with the ability to use the Force. Remember, traditional Jedi are taken from their parents at a very young age so they can be indoctrinated to resist the dark side.

We actually have no indication that force power passes through genes from powerful force users because we have only ever seen it happen with the Chosen One.

So all we have proven so far is a special case.

What about Stass Allie and Adi Gallia? Weren't they cousins?

Originally posted by bilb
Well actually I always kinda thought that Luke worded it that way for dramatic effect.. like when you call out the lottery winner.. you dont just say # 4321 is the winner!! you drag it out.. ffffffffoouurrr.... ttthhrreeee.. ttwwwwoooo.... OONNNEE!!!

just the way i always took it

ya gotta love bilb

Originally posted by Ushgarak
We actually have no indication that force power passes through genes from powerful force users because we have only ever seen it happen with the Chosen One.

So all we have proven so far is a special case.

Well that would be because so few Jedi are allowed to marry due to the attachment issue. Since there is little evidence to the contrary, I feel it to be a safe assumption.