feng wei with god scrolls vs ryu and ken

Started by Blue nocturne8 pages
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
My bad.
It was developed by Ryu, but because Gouken had already taught him his policy, it was a non-fatal(lethal)move.

But re read what I said even the the move was not ment to be lethal it is because of it's power. it's one of the most powerful techniques in the sf universe.

like analogy if you will

taking the god scrolls away from feng wei is like almost taking a MOVESET from ryu or ken.

the god scrolls doesnt come from one's own power btw.
it is like Geese from the fatal fury game. (non canon, but it is said that once he read all three scrolls, he turned into nightmare geese)

RYU has the dark hadou simply just by fighting too much.
if this is the case then the satsui no hadou can also be ryu's trump card.

remembered that.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Hadouken is slow based on what gameplay, Like I've said in other threads projectiles are slow because of street fighter's game restriction.

But ken and ryu still have sure kill moves shin-shoryu-ken is a fatal move but it's not an assassin move it's just ithat powerful.

U said its fatal but not an assassin move??

Originally posted by looldude
like analogy if you will

taking the god scrolls away from feng wei is like almost taking a MOVESET from ryu or ken.

the god scrolls doesnt come from one's own power btw.
it is like Geese from the fatal fury game. (non canon, but it is said that once he read all three scrolls, he turned into nightmare geese)

RYU has the dark hadou simply just by fighting too much.
if this is the case then the satsui no hadou can also be ryu's trump card.

remembered that.

Ryu rejected the dark hadou remember?
U don get the dark hadou by fightin to much, u have to want to win n kill to win to get the dark hadou.

N feng will only get to use the scrolls if he wins the tournament. So its a 'what if' question as the 6th game hasnt come out.

but this is a dream match remember?
there are no restrictions.

if feng wei gets the scrolls
then i dont see whY NOT for ryu to accidently tapped the powers of the dark hadou.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
U said its fatal but not an assassin move??

Yes because it wasn't in the original ansatsuken moveset.

Originally posted by looldude
but this is a dream match remember?
there are no restrictions.

if feng wei gets the scrolls
then i dont see whY NOT for ryu to accidently tapped the powers of the dark hadou.

Did the thread starter say Ken n Ryu can use their dark hadou's?Nope.
Besides Ryu's more powerful in SF3 than he was as Evil ryu.

did the creator said they cant?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Yes because it wasn't in the original ansatsuken moveset.

Oh so that move is fatal but cannot kill because goutetsu never founded it?
Fatal means something that can kill u. Shin-shoryuken cannot kill coz Ryu placed emphasis on lowering the lethality of the move. Its powerful but not fatal or lethal or assassin.

Originally posted by looldude
did the creator said they cant?

He said Ryu n Ken not Evil Ryu n Evil Ken.

he said 2 v 1
you agreed
end of discussion.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Oh so that move is fatal but cannot kill because goutetsu never founded it?
Fatal means something that can kill u. Shin-shoryuken cannot kill coz Ryu placed emphasis on lowering the lethality of the move. Its powerful but not fatal or lethal or assassin.

I'm afraid your wrong, officially it can kill because of it's raw power and ryu's power. the move isn't an assassin move because it isn't in the original moveset.

Originally posted by looldude
he said 2 v 1
you agreed
end of discussion.

So what does this have to do wit whether they can turn evil or not?
Ur deluded mon ami.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I'm afraid your wrong, officially it can kill because of it's raw power and ryu's power. the move isn't an assassin move because it isn't in the original moveset.

Having a lot of power doesnt necessarily mean its a killer move. Read on the shoryuken=Shoryuken

baka.
you're telling me that im dragging this YET you are the one who is doing it. wei shenme?

dark hadou would be the trump card for ryu.
as stated specifically from akuma that HE WANTS ryu to be consumed by the dark hadou and then proceed to fight him.

yeah maybe the topic creator FORGOT to include the restrictions for both ryu and ken because he probably knew that ryu and ken alone would most likely beat him with or without hadou or bison's influence.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Having a lot of power doesnt necessarily mean its a killer move.

Um yeah it does if I throw a bullet at you with my hands you won't die but if I fire it from a gun then your dead, why because the gun has more power and it's officially a killer technique.

Satsu no hadou is not a trump card for ryu it's an obstcale ryu doesn't need it anymore.

Originally posted by looldude
baka.
you're telling me that im dragging this YET you are the one who is doing it. wei shenme?

dark hadou would be the trump card for ryu.
as stated specifically from akuma that HE WANTS ryu to be consumed by the dark hadou and then proceed to fight him.

yeah maybe the topic creator FORGOT to include the restrictions for both ryu and ken because he probably knew that ryu and ken alone would most likely beat him with or without hadou or bison's influence.

Ur the one who's draggin things into this.
Have u played any of the games after SF alpha?
Ryu rejects the satsui no hadou. He cannot turn into Evil Ryu.
End of story.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Um yeah it does if I throw a bullet at you with my hands you won't die but if I fire it from a gun then your dead, why because the gun has more power and it's officially a killer technique.

If u fire it at the legs, u think a person will die?
And the shin shoryuken isnt a killer technique. U think ryu wud use it if it was?

end of story?
YET feng's so called god scrolls which he may or may not aquired. therefore your points and arguments are also invalid.

end of story.

sorry but im also basing this on aN ALSO NON CANON movie from street fighter alpha the movie. which he was pretty damn strong.

do you not "understand" from my view point?
you are saying feng wei can beat them because he has the scrolls which in the first place we dont know if he has aquired or not.
THEREFORE it is considered speculative.

NOW, i'm saying from a speculative point of view as well taking STUFF from movies and "extra" storylines.

i'm going to sleep
clearly noc and i won this debate already. since you agreed and answered the topic's question

NIIIIIITE