Batman n Wolverine vs Daredevil n Spiderman

Started by Droopy2 pages

Daredevil's stats Wolverine
Intelligence=3 Intelligence=2
Strength=2 strength=4
speed=2 speed=2
durabiliaty=2 durablity=4
energy projection=1 energy projetion=1
fighting skills=5 fighting skills=7

Wolverine is stronger just as fast and more durable and a better fighter daredevil is smarter by 1 point. Daredevil can dodge all he wants but wolverine shouldnt have that much trouble with his healing factor plus and daredevil isnt that much smarter

Daredevil is a better technician, fighting wise. Yes Wolverine has the healing factor. How does that do against full body paralysis? That negates the healing factor.

i hate to tell everyone this.

1. It is stated that wolverine mastered every fighting style on the planet.
2. Look at all of the wolverine vs spiderman battles, each time wolverine has owned spiderman, (most recent, marvel knights, quick stab to the chest, then you had an enraged spiderman that licks wasnt even hurting wolverine. Wolverine actually stood there and took the licks.). Spiderman isnt a challenge for wolverine.
3. Daredevil vs Wolverine, no fight at all. Wolverine will own daredevil. Daredevil vs wolverine during the time wolverine was mind wiped by the gorgon, wasnt wolverine at his fullest. Wolverine wins hands down.

Wolverine, batman wins easily.

Originally posted by carver9
i hate to tell everyone this.

1. It is stated that wolverine mastered every fighting style on the planet.
2. Look at all of the wolverine vs spiderman battles, each time wolverine has owned spiderman, (most recent, marvel knights, quick stab to the chest, then you had an enraged spiderman that licks wasnt even hurting wolverine. Wolverine actually stood there and took the licks.). Spiderman isnt a challenge for wolverine.
3. Daredevil vs Wolverine, no fight at all. Wolverine will own daredevil. Daredevil vs wolverine during the time wolverine was mind wiped by the gorgon, wasnt wolverine at his fullest. Wolverine wins hands down.

Wolverine, batman wins easily.

1.Wolverine mastered every fighting style on the planet. He doesnt even use half of that for one.
2. Didnt he lose to Elektra in enemy of the state as well?
3. Daredevil also beat an enraged Spiderman. Spiderman doesnt even hardly have any knowledge of MA. Hes not even in the top 15 h2h combitants. Hes just agile, and fast. Not too much skill compared to the likes of wolvie, DD, Elektra, Cap, etc.
4. In enemy of the state Daredevil beat wolverine as well. No?

How will wolverine "own" Daredevil? Please explain. 馃檪

Originally posted by jrodslam
1.Wolverine mastered every fighting style on the planet. He doesnt even use half of that for one.
2. Didnt he lose to Elektra in enemy of the state as well?
3. Daredevil also beat an enraged Spiderman. Spiderman doesnt even hardly have any knowledge of MA. Hes not even in the top 15 h2h combitants. Hes just agile, and fast. Not too much skill compared to the likes of wolvie, DD, Elektra, Cap, etc.
4. In enemy of the state Daredevil beat wolverine as well. No?

How will wolverine "own" Daredevil? Please explain. 馃檪

You can say what you want but wolverine outmatches him and thats that daredevil is a better tactician is that a fact or your bleief because I have listed facts but all you have been talking about is how he is a better tactician 馃槢

Gah.

Spiderman and Daredevil.

After maybe...20 minutes of fighting.

The vital thing here is that Wolverine, out of the four, fights to the death. Will DD or Spidey have what it takes to keep going for hours against him? He will get back up again and again. As for Batman, Spider-Man could take him down, but DD, despite that great underdog boxer heart, would ultimately lose. That happens, it's double team on Spidey, and Bats will have some gadget or toxin to immobilize him.

Not that I agree with you, but if you want to think about it that way, then Spiderman can take Batman out of the fight quickly while Daredevil easily keeps Wolverine busy.

Now I've turned it around on you. Spidey and DD vs. Wolvie.

Spidey and Daredevil aren't losing this match.

Originally posted by Droopy
You can say what you want but wolverine outmatches him and thats that daredevil is a better tactician is that a fact or your bleief because I have listed facts but all you have been talking about is how he is a better tactician 馃槢

Wolverine outmatches him how? Wolverine statistically has a strength, durability, and fighting ability higher than Daredevil. Wanna know why most of that goes out the window? Its because Daredevil has something called a radar sense he feels and hears the slightest movement and knows exactly what Wolverines gonna do. Wolverine may get lucky enough to land a slash, but a clear stab aint happenin.

Daredevil being a better fighting technician along with his smart will play a huge factor in his victory over Wolverine. Its amaging what the guy can do to those who have different types of abilities that are statistically higher than his.

In enemy of the state Daredevil beat wolverine as well. No?
How will wolverine "own" Daredevil? Please explain.

* Spidey can beat Logan, big time.
* Spidey can beat Batman, but will have a tough time.

* DD can beat Logan, but will have a tough time.
* DD can match with Batman in a fight, might end up in a draw.

* what aggravates the Batman-Wolverine team-up is that DC has made a "reputation" that "Batman never loses" and Marvel obviously made the Wolverine character very much overrated.

* the Spidey-DD tandem will win because they have rapport, unlike the old geezers.

* once Logan goes berserk, his team is history. Spidey & DD are both cool-headed & wise-crackers, they'll kick both their butts and make fun of them at the same time.

* Batman's sole chance is his gadgets, without them, he'd be black & blue, no pun intended.

[QUOTE=4949163]Originally posted by jrodslam
Wolverine outmatches him how? Wolverine statistically has a strength, durability, and fighting ability higher than Daredevil. Wanna know why most of that goes out the window? Its because Daredevil has something called a radar sense he feels and hears the slightest movement and knows exactly what Wolverines gonna do. Wolverine may get lucky enough to land a slash, but a clear stab aint happenin.

Daredevil being a better fighting technician along with his smart will play a huge factor in his victory over Wolverine. Its amaging what the guy can do to those who have different types of abilities that are statistically higher than his.

In enemy of the state Daredevil beat wolverine as well. No?
How will wolverine "own" Daredevil? Please explain.
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I never said wolvie would own daredevil but in a fight I think he wins this fight and this whole Daredevil knows everthing wolvie gonna do is bs wolvie could still beat him

Originally posted by Droopy
I never said wolvie would own daredevil but in a fight I think he wins this fight and this whole Daredevil knows everthing wolvie gonna do is bs wolvie could still beat him

Well everyone is entitiled to their own opinion. Daredevil could actually predidct every move Wolverine is going to do by listening to the muscle movements as well as shifts in the air around him.

BS you call it? I wouldnt say so. His senses are just aht good. Ofcourse writers wouldnt havbe him do that in all his fights because hed be undefeated. And it would make horrible fight scenes.

However in a real bloodlusted fight, there arent too many street level fighters in COMICS alone that would be able to beat Daredevil in h2h combat. If writers have him use his senses to their full ability. Hed literally dodge everthing. If you thihnk Spiderman is bad Daredevil is/would be multiple times worse. And thats a fact.

Just on terms of how DD would fare...

I think DD's fighting abilities are way underscaled in Marvel's handbooks and guides and cards and whatnot. I mean the guy can fight off a horde of ninja's... ninja's with powers... ninja's with weapons and powers and he cant rate above a 5/7? I think that's garbage and he easily rates a 7 with his bouts against guys like Wolvie, Cap and Elektra. All his senses just make him that good. Although Wolvie isn't in the 'right mind' in the Enemy of the State fight, he IS trying to kill DD. He says so and thinks so in the storyline itself. The fact that Wolvie without any moral compunctions can't, even with the assistance of a few dozen ninja shows that DD is pretty darn good. If you also take a look another recent fight between the two, although it may jade Wolvie and DD fans is the little tussle they have when they are both trying to take out the Punisher in 'Confederacy of Dunces.' In it, Wolvie gets overly upset and he's stopped by a good jab to the throat by DD in a one-two step. Then again, I think people guessed that Garth Ennis was trying to humiliate Wolvie lovers in that storyline so maybe that isnt a good example...

That being said, I also don't think Batman can handle DD physically, I mean just look at the Batman/DD comics they've printed. They stalemate in some pretty cool fight scenes by McDaniels (current Robin artist) which seem to actually give DD an upperhand because of his radar sense. The only time Bats tags him is by tricking DD into showing off by having DD catch all his Batarangs in a feint and clocking him with a jumpkick. Other than that one instance, DD looks like he's playing Bats. Then again, Bats intuition and sense could tell him that DD is blind and he relies on supersensory perception like hearing and whip out some sort of sonic disruptor, which, although I am a DD fan, he has been prone to being laid out like a lil red headed step child with. So in the end, I think we all could guess Bats is pretty shifty enough to do this or even throw out a mustard bomb for his smelling sense... yeah that last one is kind of dumb. XD

Yea. Good post. People dont understand that DD's senses increases his fighting ability. I dont know why hes rated as 5. I might be because of his actual skill. But if you include his senses, it should put him in 7 easily. The man has some impressive feats. Ive been looking everywhere for those fights. Im going to try and get Wolverine #24, when Dd fights the ninjas as well as Wolvie. But like whats been stated many times. Daredevil gets underrated to much.

I'd say if Spider-man kicks into high gear and attacks wolverine with everything he has got and constantly hitting him at full strength he would beat wolvy easy. Why? well wolverines healing factor can only take so much punishment, and if spidey is keeping wolverine off balance then he can't counter his healing factor would conk out eventualy and he would pass out and have to wait quite a while before the healing factor kicks back in. Just to be on the safe side spidey webs wolverine up in a position that he can't use his claws and be stuck.

DD and batman would go at it pretty evenly in my opinion though. DD could use all his senses to dodge bats and his weapons and Bat's is a better fighter skill wise so he might find away to outmanouver DD with gadgets and what not. But i think DD has the upperhand dodging anyway untill spidey has finished wolverine, then its double team time.

Well its either that or wolverine manages to recover from one of spider-mans punches quick enuough to get a kick slash in to slow spider-man down enough to get a good kill in. But I'd think his spider- sense would compensate for that.

Or we could just be lame and say spider-man exposes a webcartridge to the air and engulfs bats and wolvy in webbing and if they cnt move they cnt realy escape, or batman could get out some sort of bomb and make a blast big enough that spidey and dd cnt dodge.

Overall I'd say 6/10 goes to Spidey and DD because they have a slight advanatge.

And every1 beats enraged characters (except the hulk) because they become sloppy. Spidey beats DD cause he tries using brute force instead of agilty and dosnt listen to his spider-sense correctly, Im sure If Batman was enraged his fighting style would suffer, and wolverine just dsnt think when he goes beserker.