Originally posted by legacy92
ummm kan u break that down for me .... i dont get it
The gem of Cytorrak is powered by Cytorrak. Let me put it this way. Current Juggernaut is using i'd say 2% of the potential power he could have. If you gave him the full potential....like i said....it'd be gruesome.....
~wickerman~
Originally posted by legacy92
ok same thingy but supes jus GOT SUPER POWERD FROM thE SUN AND GODLY now woo wins ?
😆 dude....if you want battles like this, watch DBZ. I mean, sure, a few changes and derivations in the battle, sure, but come on. Why don't you just make a new thread with characters that already have these levels of power?
wait......actually don't 😖hifty:
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You all realise that both the Hulk and Juggernaught can lift 100 tons. And the Hulk just keeps getting stronger. As for Heat vision and all these other powers, heat vision makes hulk mad he gets stronger his powers increase, his healing factor constantly restores him. Juggernaught, well he has a bloody force feild, oh yeah I forgot to mention, an impentrable force feild.. So both of them have more than just basic brute strength abilties. Not to mention all you superman fanboys seem to think superman can lift more than 100 tons. I doubt it.
Oh and juggernaught is pretty smart and both hulk and juggernaught are great hand to hand fighters.
And what makes you think superman and Lobo could punch Hulk or Juggernaught into the sun. They can take their punches. Thats like saying because Im realy strong I could punch that todler over there, and seeing as i can do that I can also punch this guy with my same attributes over with 1 punch. and if superman tried to fly hulk to the sun, i think hulk pounding on him would slow supes down and hurt him enuff to drop old hulky. So think about it the only way supes or lobo could punch either of em into orbit is if they were just walking dwn the street not ready for a fight, if they were standing there ground. Oh and if we are talking about professor hulk you can kiss you "greater thinking abilty" strategy good by, after all how could they beat Green hulks power, Grey hulks fighting smarts, and the intelligence of bruce banner??
Originally posted by Sparkz
You all realise that both the Hulk and Juggernaught can lift 100 tons. And the Hulk just keeps getting stronger. As for Heat vision and all these other powers, heat vision makes hulk mad he gets stronger his powers increase, his healing factor constantly restores him. Juggernaught, well he has a bloody force feild, oh yeah I forgot to mention, an impentrable force feild.. So both of them have more than just basic brute strength abilties. Not to mention all you superman fanboys seem to think superman can lift more than 100 tons. I doubt it.
Oh and juggernaught is pretty smart and both hulk and juggernaught are great hand to hand fighters.
And what makes you think superman and Lobo could punch Hulk or Juggernaught into the sun. They can take their punches. Thats like saying because Im realy strong I could punch that todler over there, and seeing as i can do that I can also punch this guy with my same attributes over with 1 punch. and if superman tried to fly hulk to the sun, i think hulk pounding on him would slow supes down and hurt him enuff to drop old hulky. So think about it the only way supes or lobo could punch either of em into orbit is if they were just walking dwn the street not ready for a fight, if they were standing there ground. Oh and if we are talking about professor hulk you can kiss you "greater thinking abilty" strategy good by, after all how could they beat Green hulks power, Grey hulks fighting smarts, and the intelligence of bruce banner??
1. Heat vision doesn't just make Hulk angry. heat Vision is something that is strong enough to deflect the Omega Beams, which disintegrate anything. It's concussive force at the heat of the sun. Seeing as how i've seen hulk get knocked out by lightning, i wouldn't be surprised if a heat vision at full power would put him down. But i didn't want to make it look too bad for him.
2. Juggernaut does indeed have a very powerful force field. That's what he's best known for. His durability, not his strength. Not saying he's not strong, it's just not what he's best known for. If you would've read the thread cautiously and unbiased, you would've noticed we conceeded on this point a long time ago.
3. You don't think Superman can lift 100 tons? 😆 wow.....that's cool. He can pull the Earth out of orbit, but can't lift 100 tons 😂 Yep...that kinda blew your argument out of the water right there.
4. I never said punch them into the sun. I said neutralize one of them, then deal with the other. THROWING one in the sun is the easy way out. Superman can also very well just use the heat vision to create a bigass crater that juggs fals into. Need i remind you it took him around 50 years to get out of a mountain? That can be done...again.
5. Just walking down the street not bracing themselves eh? I guess you've never heard of speedblitzing before hmmm?
6. Yeah, if professor hulk is being used, they're soooo screwed. Are you insane? Prof. Hulk's the weakest version of Hulk. Besides, Superman's already beaten Prof. Hulk.
try to leave the love for characters at home and think logically. And seeing as how we're the ones using logic instead of spouting out nonsensical drivvle, please look in the mirror before calling us fanboys. Thank you.
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Sparkz
You all realise that both the Hulk and Juggernaught can lift 100 tons. And the Hulk just keeps getting stronger. As for Heat vision and all these other powers, heat vision makes hulk mad he gets stronger his powers increase, his healing factor constantly restores him. Juggernaught, well he has a bloody force feild, oh yeah I forgot to mention, an impentrable force feild.. So both of them have more than just basic brute strength abilties. Not to mention all you superman fanboys seem to think superman can lift more than 100 tons. I doubt it.
Oh and juggernaught is pretty smart and both hulk and juggernaught are great hand to hand fighters.
And what makes you think superman and Lobo could punch Hulk or Juggernaught into the sun. They can take their punches. Thats like saying because Im realy strong I could punch that todler over there, and seeing as i can do that I can also punch this guy with my same attributes over with 1 punch. and if superman tried to fly hulk to the sun, i think hulk pounding on him would slow supes down and hurt him enuff to drop old hulky. So think about it the only way supes or lobo could punch either of em into orbit is if they were just walking dwn the street not ready for a fight, if they were standing there ground. Oh and if we are talking about professor hulk you can kiss you "greater thinking abilty" strategy good by, after all how could they beat Green hulks power, Grey hulks fighting smarts, and the intelligence of bruce banner??
And you realise right.. that Supes has previously downed both of them, Juggernught was shaking the Daily Planet and all of a sudden he was he was stumbling, woozy and had his helmet smashed in and turned to see Superman? And Hulk versus "I'm going to end this now" Superman? lol. He's far too fast and strong for either of them. Someone on here posted a comic of Spidey using his superspeed to dodge around and clobber Hulk. And neither of them have anything that can hurt lobo, and if he actually manages to bleed, suddenly there's an army of lobos.
Um...Superman can lift way over 100 tons...exponentially more. He's the strongest one in this thread until the Hulk gets mad enough. I'm not a Jug fanboy so I consider all his appearances; even "classic" juggy had his defeats and was routinely defeated. Nonetheless, Hulk and Jugs take dumps bigger than Lobo and Superman. I think Hulk and Jugs are simply depicted as bigger, tougher, more physically imposing guys than Lobo and Supes. Superman's only hope against Jugs is to use the environment and Jugs lack of flying ability against him. But eventually he is goingt o be in trouble. Hulk would rip Lobo's little arms off and punt his cursing torso into the ocean then join Jugs in taking care of Supes. By the time Lobo grows back his limbs and gets back to the scene Superman will be KO'd and Lobo's next destination will be somewhere in orbit.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Um...Superman can lift way over 100 tons...exponentially more. He's the strongest one in this thread until the Hulk gets mad enough. I'm not a Jug fanboy so I consider all his appearances; even "classic" juggy had his defeats and was routinely defeated. Nonetheless, Hulk and Jugs take dumps bigger than Lobo and Superman. I think Hulk and Jugs are simply depicted as bigger, tougher, more physically imposing guys than Lobo and Supes. Superman's only hope against Jugs is to use the environment and Jugs lack of flying ability against him. But eventually he is goingt o be in trouble. Hulk would rip Lobo's little arms off and punt his cursing torso into the ocean then join Jugs in taking care of Supes. By the time Lobo grows back his limbs and gets back to the scene Superman will be KO'd and Lobo's next destination will be somewhere in orbit.
Why do you ignore Speedblitzing??? 😬 You yourself say Superman is the strongest one in the thread until Hulk gets mad enough. What's stopping him from speedblitzing Hulk into orbit and in the meanwhile 2vs. 1 against Juggs? Or the same the other way around? 😬
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Juntai
And you realise right.. that Supes has previously downed both of them, Juggernught was shaking the Daily Planet and all of a sudden he was he was stumbling, woozy and had his helmet smashed in and turned to see Superman? And Hulk versus "I'm going to end this now" Superman? lol. He's far too fast and strong for either of them. Someone on here posted a comic of Spidey using his superspeed to dodge around and clobber Hulk. And neither of them have anything that can hurt lobo, and if he actually manages to bleed, suddenly there's an army of lobos.
Someone needs to tell me more about Lobo's chains, since i'm not a huge fan. But i do know his bike goes at light speed. And i also know his chains are incredibly potent.
ps: in hulk's defense, Spiderman was jumping around Hulk until Hulk got p1ssed and just caught peter in motion and smacked him around.
~wickerman~
I didnt say superman couldnt lift 100 tons, i said he couldnt lift over 100 tons, and I know hes moved planets but this is all about this famouse pre crisis superman that every1 seems to use in these fights which I think is lame. And prof hulk isnt the weakest hulk he has the abiltise of every hulk and banner, yeah thats weak ^o) and its been stated that juggernaught is quite smart he probaly cant out think them but its not like he is stupid. and now that you mention it no i havent learned of speedblitzing.
Oh and can some1 actuly state how much superman can lift, just a basic superman please no pre crisis crap or any other power ups he has had over the years.
And marvel DC crossovers mean nothing, they either end in stalemates or ridiculouse ways of beating the foe.
Speed blitzing is over rated. It would have no effect on Juggernaut and the Hulk would be just as succeptable to a speed blitz as any DC strong type. Im not going to argue about the speed blitz...its used way too much in any Marvel vs DC thread. I was just exploring the Lobo Hulk, Jugs Supes match up though. Maybe the DC guys would have better chances if I switch it up.
Originally posted by SparkzCurrent Superman can do plantary moving feats, let alone pre-crisis.
I didnt say superman couldnt lift 100 tons, i said he couldnt lift over 100 tons, and I know hes moved planets but this is all about this famouse pre crisis superman that every1 seems to use in these fights which I think is lame. And prof hulk isnt the weakest hulk he has the abiltise of every hulk and banner, yeah thats weak ^o) and its been stated that juggernaught is quite smart he probaly cant out think them but its not like he is stupid. and now that you mention it no i havent learned of speedblitzing.
Oh and can some1 actuly state how much superman can lift, just a basic superman please no pre crisis crap or any other power ups he has had over the years.
And marvel DC crossovers mean nothing, they either end in stalemates or ridiculouse ways of beating the foe.
Originally posted by WynndarHow could either of them even hit Superman? Neither of them move near the level. We're talking faster than light versus faster than cars, what do you think?
Speed blitzing is over rated. It would have no effect on Juggernaut and the Hulk would be just as succeptable to a speed blitz as any DC strong type. Im not going to argue about the speed blitz...its used way too much in any Marvel vs DC thread. I was just exploring the Lobo Hulk, Jugs Supes match up though. Maybe the DC guys would have better chances if I switch it up.
"sadly either lobo or supes could do it alone."
No. They couldnt. neither could Hulk or cain fight the other two alone.
"i hate hulk/jugg fanboys, if hulk was sooo STRONG and he was sooo INVINCIBLE he'd be undefeated....but hes not. He's been Ko'ed by BB's scream, and Supes or Lobo hits a helluva lot harder than that."
Your comparing a punch of any of those two to BB scream? A Whisper ko Hulk and Glads. No way man.
"Juggernaut is a non-factor - he'll be ring-out'ed in the first tenth or so of a second."
Considering hes the one with the best durability of the thread. No. Not likely.
"Out of a second" ?..........no comment.
"You all realise that both the Hulk and Juggernaught can lift 100 tons"
All four are rougly in the same class of strenght.
"And you realise right.. that Supes has previously downed both of them"
And wasent he down by Hulk as well? If you count fan vote or shitty crossovers he got down by Venom too. Someone who Hulk and Cain defeated.
"He's far too fast and strong for either of them."
"too strong"? No hes not.
"even "classic" juggy had his defeats and was routinely defeated"
Any of these have defeats. With the exception that classic Jugernaut was never "routinely" defeated.
Originally posted by Sparkz
I didnt say superman couldnt lift 100 tons, i said he couldnt lift over 100 tons, and I know hes moved planets but this is all about this famouse pre crisis superman that every1 seems to use in these fights which I think is lame. And prof hulk isnt the weakest hulk he has the abiltise of every hulk and banner, yeah thats weak ^o) and its been stated that juggernaught is quite smart he probaly cant out think them but its not like he is stupid. and now that you mention it no i havent learned of speedblitzing.
Oh and can some1 actuly state how much superman can lift, just a basic superman please no pre crisis crap or any other power ups he has had over the years.
And marvel DC crossovers mean nothing, they either end in stalemates or ridiculouse ways of beating the foe.
😆 Superman can;t lift over 100 tons????Listen dude....pre-crisis Superman was the one sneezing Galaxies away. Current Superman is the one pulling planets around and such.
Prof. Hulk starts at about 100 tons class, and can't reach the same power as Savage Hulk, due to Banner being in control. I thought you as a fan would know this. He's also a lot more vulnerable than Savage Hulk.
Cain Marko being quite smart? 😆 yeah....sure...keep saying that to yourself 😉
If you haven't learned of speedblitzing, look it up. Or at least read the whole thread.....and read carefully.
No....no one can stat how much he can lift, because Superman has no upper limits. This is current, not pre crisis.
DC crossovers may mean nothing, but i was just stating the outcome of that fight because you seemed so sure about Prof. Hulk being so strong and smart 😂 .....and Superman took him out with one single punch
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