solomon gundy vs wolverine

Started by jrodslam3 pages
Originally posted by roughrider
As for Dr. Fate, if anyone took his helmet off he has no power.

Not true at all.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Not true at all.

Why? Have they powered him up too, and changed that?
Legends miniseries - angry mob removed his helmet, and he had to flee before they got to him.

I think that was the old (possibly Pre-Crisis) Dr. Fate.

DC kinda got rid of all those annoying "soooo powerful but THIS stupid AND common weakness can stop me" back then

Originally posted by King KAM
dont forget

Iron Man
BlackBolt
The whole mutant "x" gene
and the use of psychics.

The general use of bad physics. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cosmic Rays = Super Powers, I dont think so. Your more likely to get super powers from bashing your head up against a wall.

P.S. Its a general missconception that Marvel use more scientific theories, when it comes to the origins of Super powers. Stan Lee who created many of the original Marvel characters knows less about science that my little bro.

Originally posted by roughrider
Why? Have they powered him up too, and changed that?
Legends miniseries - angry mob removed his helmet, and he had to flee before they got to him.

Its nothing new. Fate possesses some magical knowledge on his own. Of course not when he was first granted mantle of Dr.Fate, but over time. However Nabu does grant him the ability to cast greater and more effective spells. Hall does have his own library with billions of years worth of spell books, and studies those. Without the use of Nabu.

But hes no Kent Nelson, so he needs to study in order to become half the mage Nelson was.

Originally posted by Draco69
I think that was the old (possibly Pre-Crisis) Dr. Fate.

DC kinda got rid of all those annoying "soooo powerful but THIS stupid AND common weakness can stop me" back then

Nope - post-crisis, fall of 1986.

Originally posted by roughrider
Nope - post-crisis, fall of 1986.

And that brings to my statement above.

Originally posted by jrodslam
And that brings to my statement above.

You lost me. 😕

Originally posted by roughrider
You lost me. 😕
Originally posted by roughrider
Legends miniseries - angry mob removed his helmet, and he had to flee before they got to him.

Fate possesses some magical knowledge on his own. Of course not when he was first granted mantle of Dr.Fate, but over time.

But hes no Kent Nelson, so he needs to study in order to become half the mage Nelson was.

Hes wasnt/isnt as good as Nelson.

So if he loses the helmet now he isn't completely helpless?

Originally posted by roughrider
So if he loses the helmet now he isn't completely helpless?

Nope. He just doesnt know as much magic as he would with the helmet. Thats why he has to study so hard and so much.

Kent nelson was almost just as good without the helmet as with.
Hector needs the helmet alot more. I guess thats why hes trying to get better.

Originally posted by long pig
He isn't mr superman, he's mr wonder woman. no offense. heh.

Grundy's greatest appearence was when he saw Superman's cape, he REALLY wanted a cape too. So he beats Superman unconcious and takes it.

Sorry, dude. But he didn't. 🙂

Superman gave him a cape and dropped him off on a low grav planet, after Grundy helped Superman beat up parasite.

Earlier in the issue, Grundy had knocked Superman to the ground, but only for a second and he didn't at any point steal Supes' cape.

However - he is massively strong and for that issue and the issue before, Superman was stunned at his power. Until he realised his power was being drained off by parasite.

Anyway - Grundy still crushes Logan like tin-foil lol.

Grundy would own this, i mean he was holdin off the whole JSA im sure he could take down Wolverine.

i agree with the WW comment on their enemies. WW is probably the easiest character to right enemies for next to Thor because most of their enemies have already existed before they DC and Marvel invented either one of them. There's Circe,Loki,Hadea,Ares,the Serpent thing Thor fights and don't even get me started on Ragnarok. Unfortunatly WW gets crap enemies alot of then time dr poison, Cheetah, etc are really not on her level and the people she gets nailed by if even though she eventually wins i.e slade, Batman etc. I gotta stop i'm getting a headache.