Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Well, I do beleive that Ryu is above par compared to most characters one on one, I DO NOT beleive he's a DBZ type of character
Thats funny because speaking of which I just got through reading the Ryu vs Goku thread and to my suprise Ryu was owning Goku there as well...wow
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Thats funny because speaking of which I just got through reading the Ryu vs Goku thread and to my suprise Ryu was owning Goku there as well...wow
THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!
No way come on let's be realistic here.
Goku is a saiyan!(alien meaning out of this world)
Ryu is a human (meaning mortal)
I can't believe that, no way can ryu beat goku!
Originally posted by P-Geyser
That maybe but Terry always learns from each fight and gains something out of it. If he were to fight Ryu and lose he most definatley would learn from his mistakes and I believe in my heart the next fight may turn out differently.
in fact ryu does exactly the same thing when he loses a fight, ryu is a character based on the philosofy of sun tsu the master of war.Ryu learns new powers from which fight he has and learn things in the midle of the batle also.And terry as its own name sugesT(FATAL FURY) fight with a powerfull anger that makes him stronger,but ryu already said to sagat that a true warrior fight with skill and not with anger.Ryus way of fighting is not always the same,he change his stlye every fight, of course he always use his ansatsuken, but the way he uses it is very variable.Ryu has a lot of experience in fighting ,even more than terry, and he can also focus better in a fight
I beleive this is a dead heat as far as fights go. It all would come down to who would want it more. Ryu has the more advanced training, but Terry has a tenacity unrivaled, he is pretty much self tuaght, and was strong enough to take out Geese, Krauser, which are up there as far as enemies go. Ryu's enemies are likewise very formidable.
I beleive, the reason Terry hasnt won KOF since Kyo entered, is because he as no reason to. My theory on Terry is big on the Hero factor. When he has a passion within him, he trains hard, and gets it done. Hes done it to Geese over and over again, and when he was facing Krauser. His whole purpose for training was to take out Geese, after all. So in Kyo's KOF tourneys, he doesnt have the driving passion to fight do what needs to be done. So he's still strong, but he doesnt win the tourney and advance the plot. Think of him like a vetran pro wrestler still wrestling today. He still has the skills, and still comands respect, but he isnt in the "main event" You get what Im saying?
I think if Terry and Ryu would really face off, one of them would lose, and the loser would get that passion back, train, and then they would rematch, and fight until the end of time. Ryu is someone that can give Terry that reason to fight, and Terry is likewise strong enough to take out Ryu, and make him learn a couple new tricks to win the rematch. Its really either way.
Originally posted by Hoshi
in fact ryu does exactly the same thing when he loses a fight, ryu is a character based on the philosofy of sun tsu the master of war.Ryu learns new powers from which fight he has and learn things in the midle of the batle also.And terry as its own name sugesT(FATAL FURY) fight with a powerfull anger that makes him stronger,but ryu already said to sagat that a true warrior fight with skill and not with anger.Ryus way of fighting is not always the same,he change his stlye every fight, of course he always use his ansatsuken, but the way he uses it is very variable.Ryu has a lot of experience in fighting ,even more than terry, and he can also focus better in a fight
Well I believe thats your opinion. And you are missing the picture. Terry DOES NOT fight with anger. As I have said Terry has fought numerous opponents not just in the Southown singles or The worldly tornaments. Terry has been surviving through his skill NOT his anger. Yes he did have anger in his heart when fighting Geese Howard but that changed when he fought Krauser...he actually was learning something from the fight and Terry is not always about the winning yes Terry has lost before but thats what I believe makes him better and makes him stronger LEARNING....not anger.
As for Ryu having alot of experince well I dont know about that. Folks here even said when Ryu was learning, he was learning alongside Ken under the guidence of their master. Terry at a younger age was learning but fighting for his life in the hell streets of Southtown getting his ass kicked getting up and getting knocked back down again and surviving mixing up various Martial Arts to incorporate into his own style...if thats not expeirence I dont know what the **** is.
Originally posted by Onikirimaru
I beleive this is a dead heat as far as fights go. It all would come down to who would want it more. Ryu has the more advanced training, but Terry has a tenacity unrivaled, he is pretty much self tuaght, and was strong enough to take out Geese, Krauser, which are up there as far as enemies go. Ryu's enemies are likewise very formidable.I beleive, the reason Terry hasnt won KOF since Kyo entered, is because he as no reason to. My theory on Terry is big on the Hero factor. When he has a passion within him, he trains hard, and gets it done. Hes done it to Geese over and over again, and when he was facing Krauser. His whole purpose for training was to take out Geese, after all. So in Kyo's KOF tourneys, he doesnt have the driving passion to fight do what needs to be done. So he's still strong, but he doesnt win the tourney and advance the plot. Think of him like a vetran pro wrestler still wrestling today. He still has the skills, and still comands respect, but he isnt in the "main event" You get what Im saying?
I think if Terry and Ryu would really face off, one of them would lose, and the loser would get that passion back, train, and then they would rematch, and fight until the end of time. Ryu is someone that can give Terry that reason to fight, and Terry is likewise strong enough to take out Ryu, and make him learn a couple new tricks to win the rematch. Its really either way.
Thank you....someone who is understanding who Terry Bogard is and where he is comin from.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Thank you....someone who is understanding who Terry Bogard is and where he is comin from.
I agree!
Terry focuses on the fight.
But does not go as far as killing like ryu would do since he gives into the dark hadou!
Supposibly from what i heard is that only the weak minded give into the dark hadou!
Terry however maintains it, keeps it under control!
Besides he trained himself since living in southtown, fighting anyone possible
EVEN AGAINST THOSE WHO FIGHT DIRTY!!
Terry's the best!
that is why ryu rejected the dark hadou and because of that got even stronger , and the dark hadou isnt an easy thing to reject, you have to be a very strong person,even the greates warrior of all time since than,akuma ,was totally corrupted by the dark hadou.Of course terry has street experience,but ryu has it too, as soon as he finished his training with his master he seeks all his lifes for stronger opponents.And ryu already lost to some guys,but just like as terry he has learnt from them.And terry fought for his life in the street with many martial artist,ryu did that as well ,but before he went on fighting them he trained the strongest martial art style from capcom universe , the ansatsuken.I like terry very much and watched all his movies,but ryu probally is the guy who can focus better in a fight.Ryus mind proved to be stronger than akumas when he rejected the dark hadou,and akumas mind is so strong that can kill normal person with just it.As you can see in the movies the only thing ryu does on his life is training, terry trains a lot too, but as showed in the movies he also has his other life, like working at a building or playing some video game
Ryu didn't give into the Dark Hadou, and Terry never posessed it...
Listen, I think that these two men are very similar, they each train to become stronger, they each seek to take a peice of the fight with them, and they each desire to fill the emptiess they feel in battle (This is probably why they keep fighting)
The difference is in their actual capabilities... Ryu has a hidden potential thats never been heard of before. Terry posesses a passion for battle that rivals anyone you can name. neither man fights to kill, Terry has only fought Geese just so he could hurt him, every other fight, even the one against Krauser was merely to test his limits.
This match is so close, you could't put a Razor bitween them, I am leaning towards Ryu because of his prior experience, and the fact that Ryu has had to fight guys like Bison and Akuma, that tempers a man against murderous superpowered freaks.
Originally posted by Hoshi
yup,ryu seeks for stronger foes and terry seeks for great fights, they are similar in that way
Well what i kinda meant was terry never truly had the sensation of killing (ex:dark hadou) not since geese anyway!
Besides think where on earth can you pick more fights:
in a corrupted, gang run, poor town like southtown!
or in a serene place like a forest filled dojo!
well doesn't take that long to decide.
Terry lived in a corrupt world. While ryu lived in a dojo with his master and ken.
It's obvious were you will gain more experience instead of fighting the same opponent over an over(ken)
And explain why in SVC CHAOS when ryu (or terry I can't remember) meets violent ken he says something " i can't believe you let it control over you" something like that.
Doesn't that say anything about the dark hadou?
Violent Ken is not posessed by the Dark hadou, but Brainwashed by Bison.
Allow me to enlighten you just a little about Ryu, He travels the whole world, searching for the strongest challengers to test his might, he doesn't fight plain street thugs and gangs either, at least not on a regular basis like your describing Terry.
Ryu fights quality opponents, which for my money is far more valuable that pmmeling 20 idiots who can barely throw a decent punch compared to these two.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Violent Ken is not posessed by the Dark hadou, but Brainwashed by Bison.Allow me to enlighten you just a little about Ryu, He travels the whole world, searching for the strongest challengers to test his might, he doesn't fight plain street thugs and gangs either, at least not on a regular basis like your describing Terry.
Ryu fights quality opponents, which for my money is far more valuable that pmmeling 20 idiots who can barely throw a decent punch compared to these two.
I know he travels the world hence the jap version of street fighter is called World Warrior.
what i was saying is that growing up terry was surrounded by thugs n'stuff,but ryu ina dojo.
and terry does not just fight regular old thugs,but every year fights in kof against kyo and iori (they are no pushovers)
And yes KOF is a part of the FF storyline!
I know, I know, but you make it sound like Ryu has lead a very sheltered life... Gouken was one of, if not the single greatest martial arts masters after Goutetsu was killed, and thats who taught Ryu. The art of Ansatsuken is nothing to sneaze at.
Ryu won his very first tournament against the Muay Thai Emperor, Sagat (Albeit, it was because of the Dark hadou surging for asingle instant), That alone, while Ryu was still a kid in training is an AWSOME feat by and of itself.
Originally posted by Hoshi
that is why ryu rejected the dark hadou and because of that got even stronger , and the dark hadou isnt an easy thing to reject, you have to be a very strong person,even the greates warrior of all time since than,akuma ,was totally corrupted by the dark hadou.Of course terry has street experience,but ryu has it too, as soon as he finished his training with his master he seeks all his lifes for stronger opponents.And ryu already lost to some guys,but just like as terry he has learnt from them.And terry fought for his life in the street with many martial artist,ryu did that as well ,but before he went on fighting them he trained the strongest martial art style from capcom universe , the ansatsuken.I like terry very much and watched all his movies,but ryu probally is the guy who can focus better in a fight.Ryus mind proved to be stronger than akumas when he rejected the dark hadou,and akumas mind is so strong that can kill normal person with just it.As you can see in the movies the only thing ryu does on his life is training, terry trains a lot too, but as showed in the movies he also has his other life, like working at a building or playing some video game
I am cool with your analysis and said that I like Ryu. We both know our boy's but I still disagree with the Ryu better focusing more on the fight. Yes Terry does other things outside Fighting BUT in the games and not the anime he likes to play basketball and he trains more still and so that he took a certain little Rock Howard under his wing.