Jesus Christ

Started by The Black Ghost208 pages

Yeh I dont understand this Mithra thing. Sounds like some kind of cult out in some foreign region of the world.

Originally posted by katie_girl09
The interesting thing about it is that most unbelievers do. I've asked my friends the same question. It doesn't make any sense that they would deny that he is the son of God and then commence to celebrate his birth (and death) every year.

Is it really that interesting? Nonbelievers just do it because everyone else does.

Same thing goes for Halloween, very few people actually care about what the day is actually celebrating.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Yeh I dont understand this Mithra thing. Sounds like some kind of cult out in some foreign region of the world.

Foreign region? As in out of the US? Well I'm pretty sure none of the major religions originated in the states. Except for LDS, but nobody cares about them. 😛

Yeh I dont understand this Mithra thing. Sounds like some kind of cult out in some foreign region of the world.
christianity was nothing more in its early days, ........................................... and foreign region of the world to whom?

Originally posted by JacopeX
Lemme ask all you Jesus non belivers a question...
Do you all celebrate christmas?

Originally posted by katie_girl09
The interesting thing about it is that most unbelievers do. I've asked my friends the same question. It doesn't make any sense that they would deny that he is the son of God and then commence to celebrate his birth (and death) every year.

fact is that the season of christmas is a time of the year that has been celebrated long before the christian claimed it.
It has been the celebration of the turning of the sun called the winter solstice so the christians in their effort to convert people into their faith took many pagan holidays and turned them into their own cause it was easier to convert people using things they were familiar with.

So to all those who havent heard of the likes of Mithra and celebration of winter solistice maybe if you took your head out of your ass and looked into things you might not been so dazzled by these so called "new" things. Move out of that little cirlcle of ignorance you surrounds yourselves with and meet the real world for a change.

Originally posted by PetriFB
Yes He is.

He died for you, that you would have eternal life.

He filled the law for you, that you could live by grace.

Jesus Christ offers free gift, which is salvation!

And those don't make our Lord Jesus God.

Jesus never fulfilled the law he wasn't the jewish messiah he didn't fulfilled any propheies.

Re: Re: Re: Jesus Christ is awesome!

Originally posted by joesha28
Jesus did die for all.. 1john 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.

john 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

1 timothy 2:5-6 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Jesus did fulfilled the prophesies: read Isaiah 53, Psalm 22 and 69.

Read (Isaiah 11:12),(Ezekiel 37:26 - 27),(Micah 4:3),(Ezekiel 37:24), (Isaiah 66:23)

All of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28:

And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaakov my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children's children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore.

He never fulfilled any of these things plus Ezekiel was suppose to announce his coming, where was he?

That's because it never was fulfilled. It was the church for control, that put together the "Jesus being the messiah" thing to try and bring the Jews into the fold under the church along with the pagans............The Jews didn't buy it though.

Jesus wasn't even considered divine until around 324AD at a council.

the council of nicea right?

That's the one, yep. Decided many things at that council. Funny too about some of the mysterious murders/deaths surrounding that period concerning some council members.

Originally posted by debbiejo
That's the one, yep. Decided many things at that council. Funny too about some of the mysterious murders/deaths surrounding that period concerning some council members.

You know what's funny christians believe that constantine was not a pagan anymore hysterical

Yeah Constantine killed his own son and killed his wife by boiling her alive in her own bath..........Hmm founder of the faith.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Mithra is Christ....before there was a Christ...........The Saviour of us all.......Mithra came first............way before the Christ story, It was copied from these any other type writiings

Interesting. Never heard that one.

Any proponents of Lord Jesus' deity?

No, Jesus is not god. Pfft.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
No, Jesus is not god. Pfft.

The way I see it is; either Jesus is not God, or Jesus is God and so are you and me and everyone else, including my cat and the tree out in front of the house.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The way I see it is; either Jesus is not God, or Jesus is God and so are you and me and everyone else, including my cat and the tree out in front of the house.

Damn. I'm god? Cool!

*goes and becomes emperor the world* 😛

Anyways I assume your referring to the Buddist belief that um... oh I can't remember. We studied world religions in school, but that was last year.

Originally posted by debbiejo
That's because it never was fulfilled. It was the church for control, that put together the "Jesus being the messiah" thing to try and bring the Jews into the fold under the church along with the pagans............The Jews didn't buy it though.

Jesus wasn't even considered divine until around 324AD at a council.

* Council of Nicaea... yes, the Catholics did that though... not the REAL Christians... 😉

* the disciples proved that Christ is a God...

"And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God , and eternal life."
I John 5:20

* Christ is a God... He is the Only Begotten Son of the Living God... so He is a God... 😉

How can a being composed of living tissue (organs, skin etc) and capable of only living like the rest of mammals considered to be GOD? That's quite the leap.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The way I see it is; either Jesus is not God, or Jesus is God and so are you and me and everyone else, including my cat and the tree out in front of the house.

I like that...

Originally posted by debbiejo
Yeah Constantine killed his own son and killed his wife by boiling her alive in her own bath..........Hmm founder of the faith.

Wow that makes my childhood look pretty good...