what characters have beaten magneto

she only thought she was killing him. the blizzard didn't hurt magneto except in a psychosomatic sense. that doesn't really count. that's like me saying "i almost toasted my pop tart by putting it in the freezer."

anyway, magneto tore up the entire team in that issue, and mesmero, and flew everyone transcontinental in an abandoned railroad car. at least i think it was a railroad car, i don't quite remember. that one don't count...

magneto could kill storm in an instant if he wanted to. an instant. there's really no way around it.

according to claremont and the cheif editor at marvel, storm had almost killed him. they both said it. yeah, now magneto can kill basically all of the x-men in an instant, but the thread title doesn't say who could beat magneto now, it says who has ever beaten magneto, and storm has come close 2 times, maybe 3 depending on how you look at it.

Originally posted by GreenFist
Does anyone know if they did the comic book to X-men 2

they did, i have it... it was ok, nothing special...

of course claremont said she almost killed him, because claremont likes to play make believe with his favorite characters. he did even back when he was considered a decent writer. regardless of what they say, turning magneto into a living superconductor and effectively letting him destroy the x-men (in terms of the fight) isn't what anyone would consider "beating" him. except, perhaps, extra-devout fans of the losing character.

claremont wasn't the only one who said it, you are also forgetting the cheif-editor at marvel. turning him into a superconductor apparently hurt him. he was in pain until the attack stopped and he had a moments rest.

and yet he still whomped the life out of the x-men, including storm. sure sounds like a near-miss to me...

after he had been powered up, and I never said she fully beat him, I said she has come close twice, closer than a lot of the other x-men have

not closer than wolverine, not closer than cyclops, if we're crediting single characters for a final blow struck after a team fought magneto. that's pretty much what you're giving storm credit for, after all.

not really, it was sorms blizzard that almost killed him, and it was storms pressure affecting that almost suffocated magneto

Originally posted by Disappear
"i almost toasted my pop tart by putting it in the freezer."

it was storm's blizzard that almost killed him? if by "almost killed" you mean empowered him enough to knock her out, then take out nightcrawler, banshee, cyclops, phoenix and wolverine, you're correct. if not, you're lying to yourself.

and her blizzard came AFTER magneto flew a circus cart at mach ten to antarctica, guided mesmero to the ground several hundred miles away, tore a hole through an active volcano, deactivated and activated his under-volcano lair's defense system, exploded the wagon, and took a shot from cyclops. single-handedly, storm could do NOTHING to magneto. she's hardly done a thing to him as part of a team.

and cresh, that made me chuckle.

would you stop lying to yourself. hardly done anything to him even with a team? since you clearly won't believe the blizzard thing, then what about the time she almost syffocated him. stoirm was the only one affecting him out of the whole team.

near-suffocation. near-death due to asphyxiation. two entirely different things. your words imply mags could still breathe and operate. and please dont use my own words, grammatically altered, on me.

fact is, storm hasn't done anything to magneto that magneto couldn't get out of. few mutants or other super-beings have. thus, she hasn't beaten him. in my opinion, she hasn't come close. as to the topic at hand, who has beaten magneto, storm has not. thus, there's no point in including her in the thread to begin with.

and lastly, of course i don't agree with your blizzard thing. i could come close to beating a diseased, one-armed war vet, but that doesn't make me a strong person. storm's blizzard was one of a dozen trials magneto overcame in one issue, in one fight. hell, in that issue, phoenix came closer to beating magneto than storm did. you can't argue against that logic.

basically none of the x-men have beaten magneto one-on-one so the logical thing is to talk about who came close, and the comics prove storm has. you can twict the words all you want, but the fact is still that storm has come closer than others at beating him with no outside help or influences.

Legion, Collosus, Xavier, Wolverine didnt beat him because of bad writing, it was out of a beatiful teamwork, go read the issue again, that shit was a masterpiece.

have you even read the issue you're invoking? no outside help or influences? magneto went through a veritable gauntlet, of which storm was in the MIDDLE, and came out on top at the end. she didn't come as close to stopping him as phoenix (by magneto's own admission,) and she really only wound up making him stronger. there's no twisting of words there. it's straight out of the comic. if you can reread it and point out exactly where i'm making my mistake, i will concede. otherwise, storm hasn't done jack.

who's come closer to beating magneto than storm? phoenix, wolverine, cortez, cyclops (though it was xorneto.) four off the top of my head.

phoenix wasn't even in the issue that I'm talking about. and by stan-lee, the cheif editor at marvel, and claremoint, they all listed storm as one of the x-men who is capable of beating magneto.

the blizzard issue? uncanny x-men 112? $47.50 at my local comic shop? yeah, phoenix is in there. you point out which issue you're talking about with this 'near-suffocation' thing, and we'll talk.

the fact still remains that storm has never beaten magneto, and has never done anything to him that he hasn't bounced back from. and i'll stake my 13,000 dollars saved up for my first year of college that she will never, ever defeat magneto. not once, ever. first, because stan lee has ZERO say in what happens in marvel comics anymore, and second, because claremont couldn't possibly explain any way of storm beating magneto, particularly how he himself has written him recently. [magneto created a pocket wormhole after months of living with a halved power level. he can bend the physical world around him. storm can move clouds and alter temperatures. no contest.]

nevermind, i looked it up myself. 150, right? where, as soon as she moves the knife to kill him, he senses the local electromagnetic field changing, even while asleep, and wakes up to toss her out the window? wow, he was close to being a goner.

and then the tornado, when he started to lose air. the human body can't possibly go any length of time without air... he threw frickin' colossus at her! moving a mass of metal that large is nothing for magneto, but if he was dying, he'd likely have had some trouble doing it.

NONE OF YOUR EXAMPLES PROVE ANYTHING! she hasn't hurt him. he could've just held his breath and taken as much of a beating. i mean, i understand you like storm, considering the username and the signature, but that alone doesn't make her magneto's equal. stan lee and effin' claremont boasting about all their characters doesn't make storm his equal. if she was his equal, he'd be beaten by now. all logic, and all canon examples, say she's not. she hasn't hurt him. that's just how it is.

yeah, he threw colossus at her, but it didn't take storm down. magneto took control of the lightning in the sky out of desperation.