what does eveyone in the VS forum have against apocalypse?

Started by wannabe3 pages

Originally posted by Disappear
want to know why wolverine doesn't lose limbs? because what good is a mostly-adamantium canadian? none. wolverine is immune because he is wolverine, and wolverine is what sells x-paraphenalia. overanalyzing a panel from DoFP (in which the art was still crappy and from ages past, when detail such as ligaments wasn't even thought of) is a bit of a stretch to discredit the character.

My opinion exactly!!! But this forum is about discussion, debate, assumptions and speculations, backed up by released comic issues and logic...at least that's what i thought!
And i'm NOT about discrediting ANY character...their writers perhaps but not the character itself. Wolverine is an interesting, multidimensional and cool character...ESPECIALLY written without exaggerations (yes, that happens from time to time).
Originally posted by Creshosk
Which I'm trying to explain. Otherwise there is too much selective acceptence of characters who defy physics. . . like the winged charaacters and cyclops . . .

Comics are about accepting and loving things that defy physics...when it comes to powers! But apart from the super powers and super sciences the characters are usually bound to normal physics...so Angel can fly in an atmosphere, because it's his power, but in space he can't, because his power is described to use aerodynamics (normal physics).
Cyclops can shoot beams out of his eyes, because it's his power, but in all other aspects he is bound to normal laws of nature etc...
Letting characters do "super-things" that are beyond their described super powers is comic literature anarchy, makes characters "specialties" more arbitrary and less special and lessens the quality of the fiction...imo, of course!

Not to resurrect a post (oh, who am I kidding, specifically to resurrect a post) but I see NO reasons why anyone should show Apocalypse an iota of respect. I will never see why that imbecile is considered a major bad ass. Back in ancient egypt he had the mutant power of being angsty and ugly. That's about it. All his incredible power is stolen from Kang, the Avengers/Fantastic Four villain from the far far far future, who just happened to leave a ton of gear behind in ancient Egypt for Apoc-a-lips to stumble onto. A chimp could be just a big a threat if it had stuff from that far into the future slapped onto it! >_<

I find it amusing that he's still considered a major bad guy, despite having a "survival of the fittest" philosophy that he himself wouldn't measure up to if not for stolen technology. And despite the fact that his big bids for domination, when we see them (as opposed to the offscreen one that put him in charge of AoA) have tended to be ridiculously complicated and pretty much doomed to failure from the word go.

Plus he has a giant "A" on his belt. Yeesh.

Originally posted by D1Puck1T
Plus he has a giant "A" on his belt. Yeesh.
😂 So true.

Most other villains have some wins under their (less ridiculous) belts. Cassandra Nova in a short period of time committed the Genoshan genocide, stole Charles body and outted him, threw the Shi'ar into disarray, punked the Imperial Guard...

I think he's a bit....feminine....if you know what I mean....

moving to vs forum....

I read that Apocalypse physical strength is not all that great either I think Superman could easily over power him and smack him down.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't know if he's recreated exactly the same as he was. However any evidence I can find suggests that he is. Pretty much same personality. Same powers. Same bio. I don't think the writers were thinking we're going to bring back a depowered Apoc for HoM, imo they brought back Apoc as per normal and had him pwn3d by Black Bolt.
There's no real indication that Gwen and Ben's every action is to the wishes of Spider-Man or that Hawkeye is acting to Wanda's. From all appearance they've been brought back to life with specific roles but capable of independent thought.
I don't know if the reliability of HoM is 100% certain - there are few things that are 100% certain. But I haven't seen anything to suggest that powerwise it isn't continuity for the overwhelming majority of characters.

There was also time when BB scream couldnt even move him.

Originally posted by Xplosive
There was also time when BB scream couldnt even move him.

how come you dont post the pic then?
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yea but that was when blackbolt's scream was supposedly only sound.

Originally posted by Jimmy Buggs
how come you dont post the pic then?
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I dont have the scanner, but do you think I am lying?

Not a battle.

Closed.