Originally posted by Xplosive
Inhumans + Black Bolt couldn't do shit to Apocalypse.
Apocalypse in HoM wasn't true representation of Apocalypse, since true Apocalypse was dead.Here is a huge respect thread that was created by someone, I don't remember where or by who in other forum. But it is huge thread and learn more about Apocalypse and his true power level.
Part 1. 177 MB.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I8HKMR99
Part 2. 165 MB.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YEU9406O
Part 3. 125 MB.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3VY2X4QD
how does one acctuly down load or view these threads i went to the site but had no Idea of how to actually view this stuff.
It's been my experience on this board that of all the characters that get debated it seems that Apocalypse's low end feats get amplified and disseminated to such an extent that his high end feats, which are very impressive and far outweigh his low end feats, get downplayed due to popular opinion of him on this board rather than the actual on panel evidence. More times than not you hear about him dodging tables or being killed by Magneto and Black Bolt than you hear about him manipulation Ozymandias under his own powers prior to Cellestial augmentation, taking down Kang the Conqueror, subjagating the Inhumans singlehandedly, or taking on the High Evolutionary.
It's very sad, and says a lot about the mentality of many people on this board, when one can't look at things objectively, whether they be a fan or an opponent of a character, and that individuals opinion decreases in merit.
Originally posted by illadelph12
It's been my experience on this board that of all the characters that get debated it seems that Apocalypse's low end feats get amplified and disseminated to such an extent that his high end feats, which are very impressive and far outweigh his low end feats, get downplayed due to popular opinion of him on this board rather than the actual on panel evidence. More times than not you hear about him dodging tables or being killed by Magneto and Black Bolt than you hear about him manipulation Ozymandias under his own powers prior to Cellestial augmentation, taking down Kang the Conqueror, subjagating the Inhumans singlehandedly, or taking on the High Evolutionary.It's very sad, and says a lot about the mentality of many people on this board, when one can't look at things objectively, whether they be a fan or an opponent of a character, and that individuals opinion decreases in merit.
It's been my experience on this board that of all the characters that get debated it seems that Apocalypse's low end feats get amplified and disseminated to such an extent that his high end feats, which are very impressive and far outweigh his low end feats, get downplayed due to popular opinion of him on this board rather than the actual on panel evidence. More times than not you hear about him dodging tables or being killed by Magneto and Black Bolt than you hear about him manipulation Ozymandias under his own powers prior to Cellestial augmentation, taking down Kang the Conqueror, subjagating the Inhumans singlehandedly, or taking on the High Evolutionary.
It's very sad, and says a lot about the mentality of many people on this board, when one can't look at things objectively, whether they be a fan or an opponent of a character, and that individuals opinion decreases in merit.
well said. in other words....stop hatin my ziggas!
Originally posted by illadelph12On-panel evidence, (or lack thereof), is just what hurts the character. He has never done anything of real significance to justify the adulation he receives from his followers. I treat the character the way he deserves to be treated...which is like shit.
It's been my experience on this board that of all the characters that get debated it seems that Apocalypse's low end feats get amplified and disseminated to such an extent that his high end feats, which are very impressive and far outweigh his low end feats, get downplayed due to popular opinion of him on this board rather than the actual on panel evidence.
More times than not you hear about him dodging tables or being killed by Magneto and Black Bolt than you hear about him manipulation Ozymandias under his own powers prior to Cellestial augmentation, taking down Kang the Conqueror, subjagating the Inhumans singlehandedly, or taking on the High Evolutionary.It takes more than a few semi-impressive feats to be considered an A-list villain, and most of us find it rather irritating to see certain people continue to fellate the character to no end; using dubious tactics such as distorting facts and even outright lying.
It's very sad, and says a lot about the mentality of many people on this board, when one can't look at things objectively, whether they be a fan or an opponent of a character, and that individuals opinion decreases in merit.What's sad, my young friend, is that you've used this opportunity to turn a simple debate over the merits of a fictional character into a sweeping ad hominem attack...coming off looking like a pseudo-intellectual at the same time.
Originally posted by Lord S
On-panel evidence, (or lack thereof), is just what hurts the character. He has never done anything of real significance to justify the adulation he receives from his followers.
What makes Apocalypse tick for me, is not some feats where he engages in fights and beats the crap out of everyone, but his god-like presence and the aura of his threat and along with his character history, as well his appearance (which is practically more original looking than half of Marvel's villains).
Originally posted by Lord S
I treat the character the way he deserves to be treated...which is like shit.
*ignores idiotism*
Originally posted by Lord S
It takes more than a few semi-impressive feats to be considered an A-list villain.
AoA?
Originally posted by Lord S
What's sad, my young friend, is that you've used this opportunity to turn a simple debate over the merits of a fictional character into a sweeping ad hominem attack...coming off looking like a pseudo-intellectual at the same time.
What's sad is, that you can't post an argument without coming off like a prick.
Originally posted by Evil_AshWell...!
What makes Apocalypse tick for me, is not some feats where he engages in fights and beats the crap out of everyone, but his god-like presence and the aura of his threat and along with his character history, as well his appearance (which is practically more original looking than half of Marvel's villains).*ignores idiotism*
AoA?
What's sad is, that you can't post an argument without coming off like a prick.
You sure showed me. Whoever said true wit was dead? Oscar Wilde ain't got nothing on you.
I'll be sure to look for Apoc's 'god-like' presence the next time I see him...probably surrounded by useless baggage, as always. What a lazy chump.
AoA was an alternate reality, BTW. Real impressive taking over North America without any real heroes around to oppose you.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nice scans. 👆 Please post more. Btw, where does that field fall under? TP, celestial tech, energy manipulation? I'm curious as to where he's getting the field.
I'm not sure. I think it's some energy based power.
Although, it could be another display of his undefined powers.
That's what I love about this guy and hate about him. I love that he has all this potential and undefined or unrevealed powers. On the other hand, I hate that he's such an unknown in debates. Because he's so mysterious and undefined in his powers, it makes it hard to argue for him in debates. As someone asked, Can Darkseid fly? Answer: Probably, it's within his powerset. You can't say yes to questions like that about Apoc because his powers aren't fully known.
But it does give us hope that someone will remember he can do shit like that.
Btw, I like this older look with the beard and armored skirt better than his more recent ones. his art style has sucked lately.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
That's what I love about this guy and hate about him. I love that he has all this potential and undefined or unrevealed powers. On the other hand, I hate that he's such an unknown in debates. Because he's so mysterious and undefined in his powers, it makes it hard to argue for him in debates. As someone asked, Can Darkseid fly? Answer: Probably, it's within his powerset. You can't say yes to questions like that about Apoc because his powers aren't fully known.
Indeed. Remember the scans I posted in which Apocalypse was shown capable of manipulating time, create life out of nothing, and re-arrange matter 😑
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Btw, I like this older look with the beard and armored skirt better than his more recent ones. his art style has sucked lately.
Yeah. His new look these really, really sucks. And Christ, he's gone FREAKIN' FAT!!
My least favourite design of Apoc, however, has to be by Rob Liefeld. He took away EVERYTHING on Apoc, and he ended up looking just...unfinished.
I actually have always liked his original costume. Ok, I admit he looked a little silly sometimes, but one can’t argue it did have a memorable look to him. Also, he was thin and tall, as he should be. 'Classic' Apoc, in other words 😉
This is the closest thing we've had resembling his original look.