The Official KMC "Conspiracy" Thread

Started by Ushgarak115 pages

Originally posted by Deano
http://rense.com/general69/makow3.htm

Bankers Engineered
WWII US Intervention

After Britain's humiliating retreat from Dunkirk June 4, 1940, Winston Churchill defiantly declared, "We shall fight on the beaches...we shall never surrender..."

His confidence was based on the knowledge the United States would back Britain.

The majority of Americans were against intervention. But a covert British propaganda and "dirty tricks" campaign, employing almost 1000 people in NYC (mostly Brits and Canadians), had hijacked democracy. It illustrates how London-based central bankers control the American people to this day.

Deano, for the love of God, learn some history.

ROOSEVELT was anti-intervention as well, as his speeches very well make clear.

Nor could any pro-intervention President have made progress against an anti-intervention Congress and Senate.

And in case you have also forgotten... it was Germany who declared war on America.

The stifling ignorance that these theorists possess is truly saddening.

I've seen history shows about this... Its partly true, They didn't want to come into the war, alot of british agents were over there behind the seens... I'm not sure as to what they did, I forget now...

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The stifling ignorance that these theorists possess is truly saddening.

What's worse, the theorists that are ignorant of the facts, or the theorists that are aware of the facts, but just lie and manipulate the information to serve their own purpose? It seems that both occur with regularity, and sheep like Deano are always ready to lap it up.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Deano, for the love of God, learn some history.

ROOSEVELT was anti-intervention as well, as his speeches very well make clear.

Nor could any pro-intervention President have made progress against an anti-intervention Congress and Senate.

And in case you have also forgotten... it was Germany who declared war on America.

The stifling ignorance that these theorists possess is truly saddening.

you are indoctrined by the official history..i expected you to say that

Roosevelt was another version of Woodrow Wilson. Like Wilson, he would
be elected by telling the people that America was not going to war while knowing that was exactly what was going to happen. Again Colonel Edward House was behind the scenes, visiting Roosevelt at his home in East 65th Street, New York, almost every day in 1932.
What a 'coincidence' that Roosevelt and Hitler came to power in the wake of economic depression with the same basic 'New Deal' type solutions, and that both were advised by people connected with the American-German cartels and the Elitecontrolled Bank of International Settlements. What's more, they both took office in the same year, 1933! Small world, isn't it? Indeed, it is the same small world occupied by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan when they were in power on both sides of the Atlantic during the 1980s, while following exactly the same economic policies, Thatcherism and Reaganomics.

Roosevelt had provably manipulated America into an already manipulated Second World War, he said that unless the Americans had come into the war, Hitler would have won. Mr Taylor was speaking and acting for a collective mindset that grips the consciousness of hundreds of millions of Robot Radicals all over the world. No wonder the Global Elite have had such a free ride thus far.
The Robot Radical mindset is a telling mixture of naivety and arrogance and that is one heck of a combination! How ironic that the people who have done most to attack me for trying to make suppressed information available are those who claim in their angelic, politically-correct, lily-white sense of their own purity, that they stand for freedom from tyranny. The Robot Radicals are a tyranny and they are just too full of their own political perfection to realise it. And on the other 'extreme' you have the Robot Right, the same tyrannical thought pattern as the Robot Radicals, but wearing a different uniform. The Robot Radicals are convinced of their moral purity and the Robot Right are convinced of their genetic purity. But they are the same thought pattern disguised as opposites.

In the USA and the UK, the wartime leaders, Roosevelt and Churchill, are still revered as wartime heroes, and yet the legends and reality are light years apart.
Even the conventional 'history' which says that Churchill broadcast live to the nation on the BBC to lift morale (with lines like "We will fight them on the beaches"😉, is a fantasy. Churchill's speeches were never broadcast live or in their entirety by the BBC. He made them in the House of Commons and short recorded clips were later used in the news bulletins. After the war, it was an actor who recorded his speeches in full for the Decca record company. With Roosevelt, Churchill, and Hitler all in place, the Elite could step up the war and turn it into a worldwide conflict. It would be a massive global problem in search of a massive global solution: the United Nations, the European Community, and all the other centralised institutions that would appear after 1945. According to Roosevelt's son, Colonel Elliot Roosevelt, his father used the cover of an invented fishing trip in August 1941 to meet Churchill on board a warship in Argentia Bay.
Also at the meeting were Lord Beaverbrook (the owner of the London Daily Express) and Averell Harriman (whose family business had financed the Bolshevik Revolution, Adolf Hitler, the Nazi war machine, and eugenics organisations advocating the forced sterilisation of the Tower classes' to bring about a Master Race). These were the people who met to discuss opposition to Hitler! Churchill, Beaverbrook and Harriman were all members of the Committee of 300.

The American people were so keen to avoid war that Roosevelt could only get re-elected by saying he had no intention of sending their children to fight in Europe or master plans anywhere else, thus echoing the words of Woodrow Wilson before he took America into the First World War. Like Wilson, Roosevelt was lying. Look at some of the things he said:

"...And while I am talking to you mothers and fathers, I give you one more assurance.
I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again. Your boys are not
going to be sent into any foreign wars."20
"You can therefore nail any talk about sending armies to Europe as deliberate untruth."

All the time he was saying these things, he knew the Second World War was being executed by the Elite and that the means to make American public opinion accept US involvement had long been unfolding behind the scenes. Roosevelt was breaking the international laws on neutrality and defying his own speeches by supplying the British with ammunition and weapons both covertly and through the Lend Lease Act. Some members of Congress could see what was happening. Representative Philip Bennett of Missouri said:

"But our boys are not going to be sent abroad, says the President. Nonsense, Mr Chairman; even now their berths are being built in our transport ships. Even now the tags for identification of the dead and wounded are being printed by the firm of William C. Ballantyne and Co of Washington."

To this day, popular accounts of history portray Roosevelt as a man who
"strove in vain to ward off war". The Elite plan, long known by Roosevelt, was to engineer an attack on the United States which would so anger public opinion that people would agree to go to war against the aggressor and, as a consequence of that, join the European conflict also.

The manipulation around Roosevelt was coordinated by Bernard Baruch and that front for the Global Elite, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). Baruch was chairman of the War Industries Board during World War I and was among the 'advisors' who negotiated the German reparations at Versailles. He was the voice in Roosevelt's ear, as he had been for many presidents. The Council on Foreign Relations devised the plan to antagonise Japan to such a degree that they would attack the United States. At the forefront of this was Roosevelt's Secretary of War, Henry Stimson, a founder of the CFR. In his diary he wrote: "We face the delicate
question of diplomatic fencing to be done so as to be sure Japan is put into the wrong and makes the first bad overt move".25 The CFR's War and Peace Studies Project sent a memo to Roosevelt, suggesting that aid be given to China while she was in conflict with Japan, and that Japanese assets in the US be frozen, a trade embargo imposed, and Japan be refused access to the Panama Canal. I can recommend an excellent book, Pearl Harbor, The Story Of The Secret War, by George Morgenstern, which sets out in great detail how the Japanese were goaded into the attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7th 1941. For four years before the attack, the Roosevelt administration had been intercepting and decoding
secret Japanese messages. They knew that the Japanese intended to alert their diplomatic centres around the world of a decision to go to war through a false weather report during the daily Japanese language short-wave news broadcast.

david icke - and the truth shall set you free

Originally posted by Deano
you are indoctrined by the official history..i expected you to say that

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Deano's cop out whenever anyone proves he's wrong or a complete ass is "all that you believe is false" or the like.

Deano, you are not enlighten by the truth, you are in fact blinded by a shroud of bullsh*t.

david icke - beware the lizard people!

It is the conspiracy theorist's 'get out of jail free' card.

Present your argument in the form of 'facts', and claim counter facts are 'what they would want you to believe'.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
david icke - beware the lizard people!

do you think its possible to convice deano hes doing more harm then good?

Originally posted by Deano
you are indoctrined by the official history..i expected you to say that

Oh, what, and your quoted bullshit somehow manages to discount the facts, does it?

I can say that the Second World War started in 1713 all I like, Deano, but that would simply make me wrong, and when you post crap like that which contradicts real life and you give it no backing at all, and your only defence of someone reminding you of the truth is to despereately say that that is not so, also with no backing at all, you look utterly feeble and contemptible.

That Roosevelt was anti-intervention is on record. That a President's opinion cannot just override that of the Houses is on record. That Hitler declared war on the United States is on record.

Where, at any point, can you possibly provide any evidence that denies these things, and then supports the views you posted?

You CANNOT just say we are wrong and you are right, Deano. That is the mentality of a child. This sort of thing is an intellectual process and you are failing.

Oh, and your persistent view that history is taught as an 'official' set of undeniable facts that is never open to question or revision is still equally childish. You really have to learn about what history is and how historians work.

Originally posted by Deano
you are indoctrined by the official history..i expected you to say that

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Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
do you think its possible to convice deano hes doing more harm then good?

What worries me is that he may say something which is true, and because of all this rubbish he posts noone will take it seriously!

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
I've seen history shows about this... Its partly true, They didn't want to come into the war, alot of british agents were over there behind the seens... I'm not sure as to what they did, I forget now...

the real question is in WWI did the British sink the Lusitania? That may not have brought the Americans into the war (Zimmerman Telegram was it?) but it certainly helped spread anti-german feeling in the States and Senate!

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
the real question is in WWI did the British sink the Lusitania? That may not have brought the Americans into the war (Zimmerman Telegram was it?) but it certainly helped spread anti-german feeling in the States and Senate!

And anti-mexican feelings with the Zimmerman note.

Hey, what happened about all those crop circle things?

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
the real question is in WWI did the British sink the Lusitania? That may not have brought the Americans into the war (Zimmerman Telegram was it?) but it certainly helped spread anti-german feeling in the States and Senate!

What kind of weird question is that?

The Germans said they would sink any ships coming into the area. The German submarine that DID IT has logs detailing the incident. The Germans never even denied it was them- they simply reminded everyone that they saif they would do it.

What possible case can you make for the standard version of events being in any way slightly questionable?

The only question about the sinking is whether the ship was also carrying weapons, which it probably was.

http://www.subversiveelement.com/AliensReptoidsLacerta1.html
http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index4.html

interview with a reptillian

Originally posted by Deano
http://www.subversiveelement.com/AliensReptoidsLacerta1.html
http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index4.html

interview with a reptillian

The post of a fool.

cheers🙂

Do you believe those interviews are factual Deano?

until there is credible evidence...i can only answer' maybe they are real and maybe they are not'