Originally posted by KharmaDog
I have indeed, many moons ago when I would counter his arguement I would research the links that he provided and break down the misinformation point by point.After months of him posting the same crap, I now don't bother to check out his links as they are pretty much all the same now.
And as someone who's profession involves a great amount of research, I try to vary my sources in both viewpoint and approach .
Then I'm afraid I can ask no more of you.
Originally posted by PVS
but you ARE killing the topic.
this is now the "PVS disrupts my conversation! crybaby " thread,
and it became that without my presence or even knowledge. the topic was free to progress but....well....you just seem to find me more interesting than david icke....and i find that rather flattering 🙂
Originally posted by KharmaDog
I would research the links that he provided and break down the misinformation point by point.
Originally posted by Deano
that would be a first
I give you the proof.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=375861&highlight=Icke+debates
You will see that I visit the websites you provide and break down their ridiculous arguements point by point. You also say that you would get information from a nonconspiracey related site, but you failed to do that.
So as you see, I have done what I said I did in that first quote, and not only do you look like a fool in that debate but now you look like a fool for making your last comment.
Just in case you are too lazy Deano, here is a point by point breakdown on some of the misinformation that you have posted or believe. The full arguement can be found in the above link.
O.K. here goes:First pic: Shows a painting in a tomb.
Site claims that there is an image of a grey in the painting.
Reality is that it is a worn out part of the painting of a woman's figure. The website is too uniformed to realize that all Egyptian figures painted at this time were painted in profile and if this were to be a painting of an alien it would have been a profile and not a face forward image.
Second Pic: Shows glyphs of hard to recognize images
Site claims "As you can see, images of a helicopter, submarine, plane and hovercraft are depicted! "
Truth is that there were many abstract shapes and designs painted in the pyramids. Not only that , but being as the photo is a close up we have no idea what the full image is.
Third pic shows a carving of a falcon
Site claims,"Some readers believe that this could be a bird, but birds do not have tails that fan sideways."
Reality is that it is a falcon, and as discussed, egyptian art is not known for it's accurate portrayal of perspective.
Forth pic shows a pic of Nefertiti in the stars, I refuse to comment on this because of the base stupidity of theclaim.
Fifth pic shows a plate.
Site claims, " It clearly shows a disk shaped UFO (top of pic). There is also a figure on the disc looking remarkably similar to a Grey."Reality is that it's a picture of athe sun and a poorly drawn human figure.
Sixth set of pics shows a mummified baby that is claimed to be an alien. Once again I won't comment on this as it is obvious that it is a mummified baby.
Last pic shows phote of a tomb frieze
Site claims,"Notice the rocket and figures standing by it!"
Reality is that it is either a monolith (which was a VERY common item that was constructed back then) or a phallic symbol, which again was very common.
I looked at the pics, and saw nothing. By having studied history and art history I came to simple conclusions that you can feel free to research the validity of. Have you done any research from a site that has nothing to do with UFO's or conspiracies?
Deano, stop being a sheep. Look for answers as opposed to having Icke and his conspiracy minded lemmings force feed you your opinions.
Originally posted by Deano
wow u broke down a disucssion on aliens. *applause*
did more than just break down a discusiion on aliens. I punched holes in all the arguements and beliefs that you and your website held dear. Make light of it if you will, but it doesn't hide the fact that your "facts" were proven to be moot. That you couldn't produce any 'credible info' and that you looked foolidh AGAIN.
Originally posted by Deano
funny thats the only one u canfind
As you stated that it has never happened, all I needed to do is point out one
Originally posted by KharmaDog
did more than just break down a discusiion on aliens. I punched holes in all the arguements and beliefs that you and your website held dear. Make light of it if you will, but it doesn't hide the fact that your "facts" were proven to be moot. That you couldn't produce any 'credible info' and that you looked foolidh AGAIN.
punched holes😆 i thought pvs made my day, but you topped it, with 41 minutes to spare. congrats.
another point, this isnt an aliens thread
Originally posted by KharmaDog
As you stated that it has never happened, all I needed to do is point out one
point em all out if ya want
Originally posted by Deano
punched holes😆 i thought pvs made my day, but you topped it, with 41 minutes to spare. congrats.
It's funny how you desperatly cling to your misinformed beliefs and how you spent a year preaaching them, but now tht PVS, I and other members have indeed shown the flaws in your theories you try to laugh it off. Kinda pathetic really.
Originally posted by Deano
point em all out if ya want
I was more pointing out the fact that you were at worst lying, or at best as misinformed as your idiological influences. Thanks for confirming that.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
It's funny how you desperatly cling to your misinformed beliefs and how you spent a year preaaching them, but now tht PVS, I and other members have indeed shown the flaws in your theories you try to laugh it off. Kinda pathetic really.I was more pointing out the fact that you were at worst lying, or at best as misinformed as your idiological influences. Thanks for confirming that.
because it is indeed funny watching you repeat yourslef over and over. i think i have shown many flaws as well as you have.
and...i never lie.
Actually, there are some remarkable problems with the explainations given by most people who have commented on those pics. Firstly, the picture of the grey alien is a common display of an egyptian officail giving up offerings to the gods. If the picture were better, then I could tell you exactly what it was that was represetned. It looks omst like a lotus or a representation of Osiris. Again, if the picture weren't in such bad condition, I could tell better. But, given the size of teh figure, then this grey alien was drawn with no legs.
The wooden bird is actually a child's toy. It was first concieved of by Imhotep, the architect and medical scholar of the old kingdom. He was very much akin to DaVinci. He was far ahead of his time and actually designed the first pyramid. He was later proclaimed a god. Now, consider what the site says: "6 wooden gliders were found in one of the Pyramids at Saqqara. Although 5 of them have been destroyed, one does exist in the Late Dynastic Room at the Egyptian museum in Cairo amongst the wooden bird collection. Some readers believe that this could be a bird, but birds do not have tails that fan sideways." It says they were found in the "Pyramids at Saqqara" and is now on display in teh Late dynastic room at the Cairo museum. The Saqqara pyramid is the step pyramid, the first pyramid, built in teh old kingdom, was the first pyramid. (Designed by Imhotep.) However, the site claims that it is on display in teh late dynastic room of the museum. But, that's not accurate. Because, the late dynastic period is the new kingdom, before the fall of Thebes. That means that the glider was found in a pyramid built at the beginning of the old kingdom, but the museum decided to display it in the new kingdom period. ?
The mummified aliens are actually the two still born children of King Tut-ankh-amon. His wife gave birth to the two children, prematurely, and they died within moments of being born. They were found in his tomb by Howard Carter in the 20's. Tut was murdered or died at 19, and his wife was then married to Ay, the grand viser, who was also her grandfather. There are records of the births and deaths of the two children. Given the delicate nature of teh bodies, and taking into consideration teh mummification process, the bodies look exactly as they should. And there is no evidence of which child was older or more developed.
The plate isn't even Egyptian. The site claims it's Nepalese. But, that makes no sense either. It's clearly got a species of lizard which are only found in tropical climates.
The pic from Mars is also a real stretch. The picture they've super-imposed over the outline, isn't in the Egyptian style, more Aztec or south American. But, I think it's an example of someone seeing shapes in teh clouds.
Originally posted by Deano
because it is indeed funny watching you repeat yourslef over and over.
You do know that it is you that have the reputation for repeating the same lame claims over again and again? In fact it became so annoying to many of the members here they dedicated a conpiracey theory thread just to combine all your posts regarding the same information into one thread.
Originally posted by Deano
and...i never lie.
Well you said that I never researched any of the links that you provided and then went about breaking down the misinformation point by point. In the following post.
Originally posted by Deano
that would be a first
And I proved that I did. You then responded that you were aware of that instance. To be aware of it and then to deny it ever happened is to lie.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Actually, there are some remarkable problems with the explainations given by most people who have commented on those pics. Firstly, the picture of the grey alien is a common display of an egyptian officail giving up offerings to the gods. If the picture were better, then I could tell you exactly what it was that was represetned. It looks omst like a lotus or a representation of Osiris. Again, if the picture weren't in such bad condition, I could tell better. But, given the size of teh figure, then this grey alien was drawn with no legs.The wooden bird is actually a child's toy. It was first concieved of by Imhotep, the architect and medical scholar of the old kingdom. He was very much akin to DaVinci. He was far ahead of his time and actually designed the first pyramid. He was later proclaimed a god. Now, consider what the site says: [B]"6 wooden gliders were found in one of the Pyramids at Saqqara. Although 5 of them have been destroyed, one does exist in the Late Dynastic Room at the Egyptian museum in Cairo amongst the wooden bird collection. Some readers believe that this could be a bird, but birds do not have tails that fan sideways."
It says they were found in the "Pyramids at Saqqara" and is now on display in teh Late dynastic room at the Cairo museum. The Saqqara pyramid is the step pyramid, the first pyramid, built in teh old kingdom, was the first pyramid. (Designed by Imhotep.) However, the site claims that it is on display in teh late dynastic room of the museum. But, that's not accurate. Because, the late dynastic period is the new kingdom, before the fall of Thebes. That means that the glider was found in a pyramid built at the beginning of the old kingdom, but the museum decided to display it in the new kingdom period. ?The mummified aliens are actually the two still born children of King Tut-ankh-amon. His wife gave birth to the two children, prematurely, and they died within moments of being born. They were found in his tomb by Howard Carter in the 20's. Tut was murdered or died at 19, and his wife was then married to Ay, the grand viser, who was also her grandfather. There are records of the births and deaths of the two children. Given the delicate nature of teh bodies, and taking into consideration teh mummification process, the bodies look exactly as they should. And there is no evidence of which child was older or more developed.
The plate isn't even Egyptian. The site claims it's Nepalese. But, that makes no sense either. It's clearly got a species of lizard which are only found in tropical climates.
The pic from Mars is also a real stretch. The picture they've super-imposed over the outline, isn't in the Egyptian style, more Aztec or south American. But, I think it's an example of someone seeing shapes in teh clouds. [/B]
Excellent post Capt. I am sure it will be ignored by Deano as it is full of information that proves his theories to be complete tripe.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
Excellent post Capt. I am sure it will be ignored by Deano as it is full of information that proves his theories to be complete tripe.
Well, I don't know if I would call it excellent. I'm doped up on cold medication. I'll pretend that's the reason for teh hideous spelling and grammatical errors.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Well, I don't know if I would call it excellent. I'm doped up on cold medication. I'll pretend that's the reason for teh hideous spelling and grammatical errors.
O.K., how's this?
Excellent information in that last post Capt. But it was presented in a very piss-poor manner! 😛