Ryu vs Kyo Kusanagi

dude....dude...listen... GO PHUCK YOURSELF....

all u said up there made no sense....anyways... teach your momma all that... alright...? i am not forcing you to read my posts... and what did u say? i have little knowledge of written language... m*ther****er i found like a dozen spelling and grammar mistakes in your non sense paragraph as well. if you want to understand my post...go learn the meaning of sarcasm... some of the mistakes and grammatical errors were intended puns... phuck this shit i dont care anyways...

so stop correcting me and prove that ryu is worth even standing against kyo... you obviously have nothing to prove that ryu is better than kyo... thats why your using the english lessons to sway everyone from the topic...

cuz u still mentioned the same moves...and if you would read my post correctly i wasnt sure myself... if those moves were used by evil ryu... and i only know #1: Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpu Kyaku from MvC and if u read again...i even said that
"even after agreeing to what ur saying"
and i still say... that even after agreeing to what ever you just crapped up there in english.... ryu is still weak... cuz he still has the same move...with slightly different trajectories of his projectiles and more or less damage and speed...

and yes it is important to see the present status of your fighter. cuz unlike the hobo ur supporting...some people update/improve their moves... so in order to keep this argument fresh and running we need to match them in present, with their present moves... otherwise chris would win against everyone since he has "access" to turn into a God (orochi) for like few minutes and the only 3 people who could stop him did not contain ryu or any sf/tekken/naruto/sesame street cast...dumbass how stupid are you...?

the question here is that...in a fight... who will win... ryu or kyo... and its kyo...

and lol at how ryu uses them... i could have just replied mentioning your grammar mistake...but i still have like a ton of things i can speak for kyo and against ryu... i dont have to use your grammatical errors as a supportive argument...your just so pathetic arent you...and whoever this dev is....that you mentioned, he must have phucked your mom really bad...thats why your so pissed at him.... see ya loser...
and yeah CORRECT THIS! you phuckin ass*hole...

Dude, dude, listen...

You get a warning for trolling and bypassing the censor. Don't pull crap like this. Post with civility and maturity or do not post at all. If your next post in this thread insults anyone, I'll slap on warnings until you take a ban.

Thanks.

LOL@ bypassing the censor....

Screw yourself fagg*t... what is this...pentagon networks or sumthing or does the pope comes here to post... what are you gonna do? ...ban me? right...no no wait...your such a fagg*t that your warning was...
"I'll slap on warnings until you take a ban"
LOL let me tell you... ill take something...ill take a shit on this forum...cuz its full of nerds and idiots like you...

go ahead, phuckin ban me...see if i care...i said what i wanted to say...and ill say it whenever i want... and you all saw and read it...

see ya losers....

oh and.... one more thing.... LOL@ insult anyone....

grow some balls!...phuckface!...

Originally posted by addy24
*Snippit*

The difference bitween my mistakes and yours are mine are typos by a keyboard, not because I'm lazy.

The proof lies within the pudding dude, Ryu has a lot more technical skill and experience, he has techniques that he has perfected for YEARS both in training and in practical application. Yes, Kyo does have a more varied technique, yes he changes his moveset every other game, but as I said before, doing so only proves that the quality of his techniques where not up to snuff.

The Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpu Kyaku didn't even originally appear in the Marvel vs Series. Neither did any of the other techniques I mentioned. Do some research please...

How does creating a variation of a technique make it weak? I mean come on, seriously, about 50 to 70% of Kyo's techniques is a variation of the firefist method based on the Onyaki... Your logic in this aspect is attrocious.

Right... The Orochi PIS event crops up again. How did I know you where relying solely upon one event of PIS that shines through all KOF? Listen up and listen well kid, Kyo, Iori and Chizuru have a special *Unique* capability needed to stop Orochi, it's called "The Sacred Treasures". It was only due to the use of these capabilities, and not through the use of their own skill and power that they could stop him at all. That makes this case of defeating a supposed *God* totally moot as a case of PIS. Nor does the Sacred Treasure grant Kyo any additional capabilities against anyone else. Oh, and I never said Ryu or anyone else took down Orochi. But then again, Kyo didn't either, it was him, Iori and Chizuru using their Plot Device Sacred Treasures, nothing more.

Yes, the question is who will win in a clash bitween these two, but then the question becomes how each person will win, and Kyo using his "God crunching fists of flame backed up by a plot device" is not an answer to that equasion, especially since plot devices arn't active, you should try reading both the rules AND the opening post of the thread.

When a mod says to stop with something, you do it.

Welcome to the consequences.

@peach
what consequences.... im still here... i dont know what your talking about bit*ch...? seriously... it didnt even took me more than A minute to get back here... just had to register with a 25... what do you guys think of yourself...? what power do u really have over me...? none... so shove it up... anyways im bored...just wanted to show how pathetic your attempts are... to control things....

@darkfart...ass*hole... you gotta read my post ...again...to understand...your too stupid to understand it the first time... why dont you get it... i never said kyo defeating orochi, is the reason ryu will lose...

I SAID: IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE FEATS A FIGHTER HAS ACHIEVED IN THE PAST AND USE THEM IN THE PRESENT AS THAT PARTICULAR FIGHTERS CAPABILITY. THAN IT WILL IMPLY THAT CHRIS, WHO HAD THE ABILITY TO TURN INTO GOD(OROCHI) FOR A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME, IS THE MOST POWER FULL OF THE ALL THE KOF/SF/TEKKEN COMBINED.

LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FOR YOUR SMALL BRAIN. IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE RYU'S OLD FEATS AT PRESENT, THAN I CAN MAKE A CHRIS VS RYU FORUM AND GET HIM BEAT, because CHRIS WILL MANAGE TO TURN INTO A GOD AND WHOOP RYU'S BUTT. AND THAN ILL DO THE SAME WITH JIN AND SO ON AND SO FORTH... ALL OF THAT WAS COMPRESSED INTO FEW SENTENCES IN MY POST...BUT YOU REALLY ARE LITERALLY TOO STUPID TO FIGURE THAT OUT...

OH AND again!!!!! READ MY POST CLEARLY... I DONT HAVE TO USE THAT WHOLE OROCHI INCIDENT TO MAKE KYO LOOK GOOD... IN MY PREVIOUS POST I JUST TOLD YOU HOW EASY IT IS FOR KYO TO COUNTER ALL THE MOVES RYU CAN COME UP WITH...

YOU NEVER HAD THE GUTS AND BALLS TO REPLY TO THAT, INSTEAD YOU AVOIDED IT BY USING SOME COPY PASTED DEFINITIONS OF A WORD...... OH WELL NEVERMIND..... AND YES KYO'S MOST MOVES ROOT FROM ONIYAKI... BUT HERES THE DEAL... THEY 'ROOT' FROM ONIYAKI AND ARE DIFFERENT FROM ONIYAKI... UNLIKE THE HOBO'S HADOUKENs WHICH DO NOT 'ROOT' FROM HADOUKEN. INSTEAD THEY 'ARE' HADOUKEN... JUST WITH A VARIANT DAMAGE, TRAJECTORY AND SPEED...

NOW WAS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR YOU...SIMPLETON... OR YOU WANNA PUNCTUATE THAT TOO... GO AHEAD BE MY GUEST...OR SHALL I SAY BE MY P.A... THATS PERSONAL ASSISTANT FOR THAT PEA IN YOUR HEAD YOU CALL BRAIN...

ANYHOW...LIKE I SAID, YOU GUYS ARE PLAYED... KEEP REPEATING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER...AND CALL IT REFINEMENT... JUST LIKE THE DUDE YOUR SUPPORTING CALLED RYU... BUT DO LET ME KNOW IF RYU EVER MANAGES TO BEAT ANYONE OTHER THAN SAGAT OR ITS CLONES...

AND AS FOR THE GRAMMATICAL MISTAKES AND TYPOS AND WHAT NOT... GO SUCK YOUR DAD'S DICK THAT SHUD CALM YOU DOWN.....

You are not welcome on KMC. Period. Go away. You had your chances and blew them. Grow up and learn to not act like such a petulant child when faced with something you don't like.

ok ok... peachums im gonna go...stop crying like a baby 🙂

and you are the one who keeps on banning me cuz you dont like...me...
so whose the petulant child here... 😉

anyhow take care of yourself...you too darkfart...hope you'll grow some balls someday...

See Ya

P.S KMC really??...you couldnt even keep me out for like 3 minutes...??

ROFL @ this addy guy. Poor guy, desires something he can't achieve...a life! 😆

Guys, do I really have to respond to any of this crap?

nah, I've done enough troll bashing for the day... this is just sad.

No, I banned you because you managed to repeatedly break the rules in just a few days. You obviously cannot handle this fact because you keep socking - which is also against the rules.

yo dark fart...where you running dude... lol....troll bashing....what is that...sum new term...for..."i am too stupid to answer, so id rather act cool"

pathetic...and peachums... whatever... you guys are so phuckin stupid...and yes it is sad dark fart...cuz you didnt reply to my post let alone read it wrong like last time..... infact it is pathetic... tsk tsk tsk

oh in case your brain cant comprehend this...im addy 🙂

Originally posted by REY1987
yo dark fart...where you running dude... lol....troll bashing....what is that...sum new term...for..."i am too stupid to answer, so id rather act cool"

pathetic...and peachums... whatever... you guys are so phuckin stupid...and yes it is sad dark fart...cuz you didnt reply to my post let alone read it wrong like last time..... infact it is pathetic... tsk tsk tsk

oh in case your brain cant comprehend this...im addy 🙂

You're asking for trouble, bub. 😬

hmm, well i do agre with addyas far as his comparisons go between kyo and ryu. darkstorm zero, all those moves you named for ryu, if you add kyo's specials dms or whatever, he'll still outnumber ryu. shoryuken hadouken hurricane kick is all he has then ultras which are the exact same just "stronger" lame,.. he doesn't stand a chance vs kyo, or terry, or any of the snk heroes if you ask me. and yeah more moves would probably make you a better fighter, capcom's fault for not developing their poster boy eh.

Originally posted by vavavoom
hmm, well i do agre with addyas far as his comparisons go between kyo and ryu. darkstorm zero, all those moves you named for ryu, if you add kyo's specials dms or whatever, he'll still outnumber ryu. shoryuken hadouken hurricane kick is all he has then ultras which are the exact same just "stronger" lame,.. he doesn't stand a chance vs kyo, or terry, or any of the snk heroes if you ask me. and yeah more moves would probably make you a better fighter, capcom's fault for not developing their poster boy eh.

No. 😐

Possessing more moves doesn't mean jack-shit against one who's fewer amount of individual techniques are not only trained with more often thus honed to higher proficency, but moves that are "just stronger" versions of the same moves is a direct testament to the fact that he's better and more effective in use with his moves than people on a similar league of power who's only claim to any particualrly remarkable skill is that they pretty much just live off their natural abilities, ie Kyo. Just because they're fictional doesn't necessarily mean they're entirely exempt from one of the most basic philosophies to be accounted for as a martial artist and one of the most overlooked in media and popular culture.

Ever hear of a little saying that goes like this: "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks once, I fear the man who has practiced one kick ten thousand times."

This is what applies pretty much directly into this argument and how it shows Ryu's position as being more or less an advantageous one.

Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
No. 😐

Possessing more moves doesn't mean jack-shit against one who's fewer amount of individual techniques are not only trained with more often thus honed to higher proficency, but moves that are "just stronger" versions of the same moves is a direct testament to the fact that he's better and more effective in use with his moves than people on a similar league of power who's only claim to any particualrly remarkable skill is that they pretty much just live off their natural abilities, ie Kyo. Just because they're fictional doesn't necessarily mean they're entirely exempt from one of the most basic philosophies to be accounted for as a martial artist and one of the most overlooked in media and popular culture.

Ever hear of a little saying that goes like this: "I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks once, I fear the man who has practiced one kick ten thousand times."

This is what applies pretty much directly into this argument and how it shows Ryu's position as being more or less an advantageous one.

Originally posted by vavavoom
dude, that was a pretty lame argument. relate to real life, the more a martial artist practices and hones his skills the more he learns as far as countering new attacs etc, the more he does this the better he gets thus more moves more to dish out the better you are, and you can also better the moves you learn so on so forth. it seems it'sreally hard for sf fanboys to swallow the fact that there are better stronger characters out there than ryu and akuma
but back to game character comparissons, kof has stronger characters kyo has fought them all, 4 time kof winner,.. what the hell has ryu won?? who has ryu beaten? none,.. kyo wins end of story.

Hold on a sec Vava... Your agreeing with Addy? Why?

Ok, lets nevermind that part, the grist of this debate has been, and always whill be this, Who will win in a fight bitween the two right?

Ok, now let me get this straight, you wish for everyone to beleive that simply because kyo has more attacks, that he must be better right? The problem with this logic, as I have stated before, is that outside of a more varied regular attack arsenal, Ryu has not needed to develop different special techniques outside of the three he has already perfected to such a digree that he needs no others. The three he has covers all the areas of actual combat that is required to win. Yes, he has developed variations to these moves as situations require, but he does not need to invent brand new techniques for the purposes of fighting, he has 1 long range attack, one close range/anti air technique, and one horizontal advancing technique. The combination of these three moves pretty much covers all the essential areas of basic combat.

He is not a combo dialer like Ken or Kyo are, and he's not out to kill like Akuma, so whats the nessesity for developing a huge arsenal of special attacks?

It's not about who is strongest out there, it never was. Fact remains that Ryu is one of the top dogs when it comes to basic fighing characters, and as for Akuma, few outside of vastly overpowered Mary/Marty Stu type characters can actually oppose the vastly impressive feats Akuma has to his name.

Every KOF Kyo has ever one has been either team effort, PIS, or a combination of both. Name one instance Kyo has a KOF tourney under his belt solo. Terry in that instance has a much better record.

Originally posted by vavavoom
dude, that was a pretty lame argument. relate to real life, the more a martial artist practices and hones his skills the more he learns as far as countering new attacs etc, the more he does this the better he gets thus more moves more to dish out the better you are, and you can also better the moves you learn so on so forth. it seems it'sreally hard for sf fanboys to swallow the fact that there are better stronger characters out there than ryu and akuma
but back to game character comparissons, kof has stronger characters kyo has fought them all, 4 time kof winner,.. what the hell has ryu won?? who has ryu beaten? none,.. kyo wins end of story.

Still wrong. The more moves a martial artist has that he can dish out won't matter at all against someone who might have half as many different techniques but has trained more diligently with them thus can actually use them more applicably than improvising the second you see something new. A well trained matial artist doesn't come up with a new technique for every single other technique he has to counter over perfecting what he's normally taught. Kyo's NOT on an entirely higher level enough to actually render this point moot. Again, the majority of Kyo's abilities aren't based on skill or training and his best feats are plot device tht don't make use of his own potential. Ryu's practically the exact opposite, and he's only gotten stronger since he first put only a glimpse of some things such as the Satsui no Hadou to use, and that very glimpse not only one-shotted the likes of Sagat (who prior had beaten Ryu into a pulp), but other forms of media show far more accurately just what a small amount can do, and Akmua happens to have complete mastery over it, which shows in his feats. It takes more than having the most basic idea of Street Fighter mythos