Originally posted by King KAM
its between legion and franklin, legion is stronger than cable and nate.....plus hed just set them all on fire.....but Franklin is FAR beyond any other mutant EVER, meaning he would freaking kill apoc like is was nothing.
He really isnt. Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Theres a beautiful redhead who is often referred to as the "ultimate mutation" 😱
Franklin is Celestial level at full power. The Celestials in the 616 reality are servants of Eternity. Rachel tapping into Phoenix would win this, Franklin would come second, followed by X-man, Cable, then Legion. That show it ranks power wise. Remember that Legion was drawing on the energies of the M'kraan crystal to do his time travelling and to empower himself. He cant do it under his own abilities.
Originally posted by King KAM
GS that is why everyone hates you, rachel loses okay..... Franklin is too powerful, let your damn phoenix phantasies die, nobody cares about the crack-jack logic you give behind it, phoenix sucks.....plain and simple....and Franklin rules. nuff said.
And still rachel wins 😂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He really isnt. Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Theres a beautiful redhead who is often referred to as the "ultimate mutation" 😱Franklin is Celestial level at full power. The Celestials in the 616 reality are servants of Eternity. Rachel tapping into Phoenix would win this, Franklin would come second, followed by X-man, Cable, then Legion. That show it ranks power wise. Remember that Legion was drawing on the energies of the M'kraan crystal to do his time travelling and to empower himself. He cant do it under his own abilities.
Actually, being that Franklin Richards's power is to manipulate reality as he wants, then he wins.
I'm not trying to take anything away from you or Phoenix. I usually agree with your posts (even though you really don't let anything beat Phoenix at all...), but in the case of a fight against someone who can basically blink and wipe her from existence...
Well, you get the picture.
Reality Manipulation>>>>Rachel as Phoenix
She would definitely be the close second though.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[QUOTE=4994341]Originally posted by King KAM
[B]GS that is why everyone hates you, rachel loses okay..... Franklin is too powerful, let your damn phoenix phantasies die, nobody cares about the crack-jack logic you give behind it, phoenix sucks.....plain and simple....and Franklin rules. nuff said.
I tend to agree with your list GS, though i'm not as sure about Rachel and Legion as you are.
I listed Legion in a state when he was at least 100 times stronger than Xavier...without training! He was able to manipulate time, matter and energy without ANY effort and the X-Men, including Jean, Charles and an all out Storm, weren't even able to get his attention!
Rachel on the other hand is quite powerful as a Phoenix-avatar but far from being her mothers level...i think.