Is Thor Bulletprooff?

Started by yahman4 pages
Originally posted by Mindship
I'm not sure about the numbers (ie, pounds per square inch), but possibly a bullet might hurt Thor when a nuclear blast doesnt because a bullet generates more pressure per square inch on the surface of whatever it is hitting than the much "broader" impact of a blastwave. This is why a person with a knife can stab through a bulletproof vest: the p.s.i. at the teeny tiny tip of a blade exceeds the p.s.i. at the much broader tip of a bullet's nose. Ah, physics. Can't live with it, can't live without it.

Very good point !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can help you half way with this.... A megaton war head creates 15 tons per square inch near the center. 🙂 I don't know how much a speeding bullet creates, but i know a wolf's bite creates about one and half tons per square inch.

To counter this argument though, if one was to fire a bullet at a nuclear Bunker, it would be unlikely to go through. Good point, mate any way. 🙂

Originally posted by Scoobless
but if it's point is sharp enough it should still damage his skin..... Wolverine managed it and his PSI for a claw swipe has to be less than a bullet

Please don't refer to feats shown by Wolvie (as cool as he may be)!!!
This character has cut Hulk and steel etc., even though , according to physics, he would need superhuman strength to do so.
And he survived a nuke as well...
So much for this characters credibility as a tool for comparison! 🙄

Originally posted by yahman
And yet Superman can travel faster than the speed of light and Captain Atom can shrink to smaller than an atom, without causing a black hole, hulk can lift buildings without them crumbling, Flash apparently has infinite mass when he's travelling near light yet he doesn't have any effect on the planet what so ever, Atlas can grow to enormous heights although his bones should be crumbling under the immense weight. The list goes on and on and on.

Physics .... puhhh lease ? 🙂

some of thse fools still refuse to acknowledge that the earth is, in fact, flat

dontgetit

Originally posted by wannabe
Wolvie .....

And he survived a nuke as well...

lol..... i've heard that mentioned a few times and it still cracks me up

i only mentioned the Wolverine cutting Thor incident because it happened in a Thor comic

Originally posted by wannabe
Please don't refer to feats shown by Wolvie (as cool as he may be)!!!
This character has cut Hulk and steel etc., even though , according to physics, he would need superhuman strength to do so.
And he survived a nuke as well...
So much for this characters credibility as a tool for comparison! 🙄

I can't believe that I'm saying this but.... I thinks its better to use this as an example rather than applying physics. 🙂

Whats the earthis ? scoobs 😉

Originally posted by yahman
Whats the earthis ? scoobs 😉

too slow man... i edited before you got that last part added to your message

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Originally posted by Scoobless
too slow man... i edited before you got that last part added to your message

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How come Thor doesn't have the Odin Force, when that nuke hits ? I'm ordering Thor Disassembled, but i can't be bothered to wait. 🙂

Originally posted by yahman
I can't believe that I'm saying this but.... I thinks its better to use this as an example rather than applying physics. 🙂

I understand...you're thinking of the difference between Comic physics and real world physics...right? 🙂
But Scoobless and i were talking on that particular level, so...

Btw:
Marvel comics feature the same basics of physics like the real world, there are just some additional aspects when it comes to super powers and super sciences.
Adamantium's only super characteristic is his indestructibility, in all other aspects it's a normal metal, following known real physics.
Wolverines only super characteristics are his senses, the healing factor and some slightly increased physical attributes, in all other aspects, going beyond this, he is bound to the laws of known real physics.
Letting characters do "super-things" that are beyond their described super powers is comic literature anarchy, makes other characters "specialties" more arbitrary and less special and lessens the quality of the whole fiction...in MY opinion, of course!

Originally posted by wannabe
I understand...you're thinking of the difference between Comic physics and real world physics...right? But Scoobless and i were talking on that particular level, so...

Btw:
Marvel comics feature the same basics of physics like the real world, there are just some additional aspects when it comes to super powers and super sciences.
Adamantium's only super characteristic is his indestructibility, in all other aspects it's a normal metal, following known real physics.
Wolverines only super characteristics are his senses, the healing factor and some slightly increased physical attributes, in all other aspects, going beyond this, he is bound to the laws of known real physics.
Letting characters do "super-things" that are beyond their described super powers is comic literature anarchy, makes other characters "specialties" more arbitrary and less special and lessens the quality of the whole fiction...in MY opinion, of course!

IMO

'Marvel comics feature the same basics of physics like the real world, there are just some additional aspects when it comes to super powers and super sciences.'

Is scrapping the barrel.

Originally posted by yahman
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How come Thor doesn't have the Odin Force, when that nuke hits ? I'm ordering Thor Disassembled, but i can't be bothered to wait. 🙂

ok, Disassembled happens after the Reigning.... and, during that story, Thor proved himself unworthy to wield the Odin power.... so he doesn't get it in Disassembled

P.S.... it isn't actually a nuke that hits.... i just used that as a comparison due to the level of the explosion/destruction..... but the source is more.... Asgardian magic based

EDIT: if you want to know what caused the explosion i'll tell you... just didn't want to ruin it for you... it's not the end of the story anyway.... not by a long shot

Originally posted by yahman
IMO

'Marvel comics feature the same basics of physics like the real world, there are just some additional aspects when it comes to super powers and super sciences.'

Is scrapping the barrel.


Did you even read the examples i gave to make clear what i mean...not to mention eventual understanding??? 🤨

However...your opinion is at least as valuable as mine.

Originally posted by wannabe
Did you even read the examples i gave to make clear what i mean...not to mention eventual understanding??? 🤨

However...your opinion is at least as valuable as mine.

no i didn't 😛 But i have now. You have a good point. 🙂 One that writers should keep i mind more often. 😄

I was referring more to the origins, sources and general usage of the powers, which make a mockery of your previous statement.

yahman, thanks for the help. And something else just occured to me: a nuclear blast is more than just a shock wave: it's heat (in the millions of degrees), and radiation (eg, gamma. which is highly penetrating). On the other hand, thanks to the Inverse Square Law effect, the power of a nuke (or any) blast drops off really fast with distance. Example: though the Hiroshima bomb exploded with the force of 15 kilotons of TNT, it exploded some 2000 feet above ground, which--if I've done my math right--translates to "only" about 7 or 8 TNT-pounds of force directly beneath ground zero, even less as you angle away. (Actually, I'm still being generous: inverse Square law applies to radiation and heat; shockwaves follow the inverse-Cube law, so that drops off even faster).
Oh how I love discussing nonsense.

drop off or not... the explosion in question occured right next to Thor... only a few inches from his hand

Originally posted by Mindship
yahman, thanks for the help. And something else just occured to me: a nuclear blast is more than just a shock wave: it's heat (in the millions of degrees), and radiation (eg, gamma. which is highly penetrating). On the other hand, thanks to the Inverse Square Law effect, the power of a nuke (or any) blast drops off really fast with distance. Example: though the Hiroshima bomb exploded with the force of 15 kilotons of TNT, it exploded some 2000 feet above ground, which--if I've done my math right--translates to "only" about 7 or 8 TNT-pounds of force directly beneath ground zero, even less as you angle away. (Actually, I'm still being generous: inverse Square law applies to radiation and heat; shockwaves follow the inverse-Cube law, so that drops off even faster).
Oh how I love discussing nonsense.

Me too !!!!!!!!!!! 😄 😉