The Holocaust.

Started by TheQuincy12 pages

Re: Re: The Holocaust.

Originally posted by GCG
There is a problem in what you say over here:

First you say "If someone found a country" then you add that they would have the're own country and laws.

Who are 'THEY' ?

Where do you get 'THEM' from ? Is it like it was in Australia when there was a call for people to inhabit the land?

If So you are involving people from other nations there, doing that, you will be required by the country that is AIDING with your development to make a protocol.

Now as soon as you involve others in your country's affairs, you automatically involve other countries cause their own citizens have contributed to the Islands welfare.

You need these foreigners to have them to build, to grow/import food, to make the laws, to organise an infrastructre that is suitable to host and maintain them as well as the founder or discoverer of the self-proclaimed country otherwise the only way i see people living there is by Adam and Eve distribution.

Firstly, no-one is going to live there if the Discoverer made a law that he can create a holocaust.

Secondly, when you have people from other countries in that Island, the discoverer cannot simply decide to Holocaust every single being on that Island cause he will surely face a retaliation from a country that has contributed to that Islands civil infrastructure.

Thirdly, its a bit difficult to keep the people living on that Island there if they know that they are going to be killed 'for a crime they commited' which frankly i can see no connection with 'Holocaust'

This person who is in control of this country, is crazy. The countrymen settle for 2 hours when all of a sudden he murders everyone for breaking a bogus law. Could he get away with it? and your answer, didn't help much.

Originally posted by TheQuincy
An interesting question came up today when I was debating with my global perspectives teacher. I was questioning him about how if someone was to find an island, and mark it as their own country. Then they would have their own government and people. They would make their own laws and do whatever, and stay out of every other countries business. But what would happen If the leader of the country was too murder everyone for a crime they all commited. It was here my teacher said that the united nations would have to put a stop to your crimes against humanity. and I said "well its my own country, and everyone agreed to my laws. It's acceptable" and then he said "So was the Holocaust acceptable in your eyes?"

So what do you guys think? We all know the Holocaust was TERRIBLE. It was indeed a crime against humanity, but was it technically acceptable? I don't know if I'm stepping on any toes here, and I am DEFINITELY not siding with Hitler. But what do u all think?

how is killing all the people living in some country a good thing? 😑
i agree with your teacher. it would be genocide.

There are different approaches.....

By Law it can be justified.......by morals it can too...it actually goes either way....since I believe there is no superior force that lays down morals on us...one can actually say from some point of views the Holocaust was justified.....

The Holocaust was built on lies, the leaders convinced a lot of there population that jews were bad. It wasn´t some law which was passed before the Jews came to Germany like the scenario you mentioned.

Plus most Germans didn´t know the Jews were getting gased, I know I live in Germany and have talked about with lots of old people

But there were indeed laws passed that allowed the persecution of Jews

Originally posted by Bicnarok
The Holocaust was built on lies, the leaders convinced a lot of there population that jews were bad. It wasn´t some law which was passed before the Jews came to Germany like the scenario you mentioned.

Plus most Germans didn´t know the Jews were getting gased, I know I live in Germany and have talked about with lots of old people

Originally posted by Bardock42
But there were indeed laws passed that allowed the persecution of Jews

exactly. they empowered a racist leader and welcomed the persecution of jews. they didnt know they were being gassed? superficial...a very poor excuse. history shows that once the population accepts persecution of a group, then that persecution will know no limits.

ignorance is no excuse.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Plus most Germans didn´t know the Jews were getting gased, I know I live in Germany and have talked about with lots of old people

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. The people who lived near these camps knew they existed. But, they like to say they didn't know the Jews in these camps were being exterminated. However, what conclusion did they reach when human ashes started falling from the sky, like snow...covering everything in their towns with a fine layer of human remains?

Originally posted by PVS
exactly. they empowered a racist leader and welcomed the persecution of jews. they didnt know they were being gassed? superficial...a very poor excuse. history shows that once the population accepts persecution of a group, then that persecution will know no limits.

ignorance is no excuse.

Yeah well......and there indeed were multiple Underground Resistance against the Regime.....

Originally posted by Bardock42
But there were indeed laws passed that allowed the persecution of Jews

Not only allowed it...encouraged it.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Not only allowed it...encouraged it.

Well yes of course..that's not the point though...that they were passed is in my opinion bad enough.....of course the governent also organised it...but that'S a different thing.....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well yes of course..that's not the point though...that they were passed is in my opinion bad enough.....of course the governent also organised it...but that'S a different thing.....

Don't take my comment personally. In fact, I have a hard time understanding why so many Germans are embarrased by the holocaust, when they weren't even alive when it happened. I'm not really accusing you, but I'd say it was time to stop apologizing.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Don't take my comment personally. In fact, I have a hard time understanding why so many Germans are embarrased by the holocaust, when they weren't even alive when it happened. I'm not really accusing you, but I'd say it was time to stop apologizing.

I really don't want to apologize...as you said I did not have anything to do with it...I was just answering the post of Bicnarok.

JUST APPOLOGISE BARDOCK!!!!

j/k😛

Originally posted by PVS
JUST APPOLOGISE BARDOCK!!!!

j/k😛

Later.....first

(Brian and Stewie are on a German tour bus.)
German Tour Guide: You vill find more on Germany's contributions to ze arts in ze pamphlets ve have provided.
Brian : Yeah, about your pamphlet... uh, I'm not seeing anything about German history between 1939 and 1945. There's just a big gap.
Tour guide: Everyone vas on vacation. On your left is Munich's first city hall, erected in 15...
Brian : Wait, what are you talking about? Germany invaded Poland in 1939 and...
Tour Guide: We were invited. Punch vas served. Check vit Poland.
Brian : You can't just ignore those years. Thomas Mann fled to America because of Nazism's stranglehold on Germany.
Tour guide: Nope, nope. He left to manage a Dairy Queen.
Brian : A Dairy Queen? That's preposterous.
Tour guide: I vill hear no more insinuations about the German people. Nothing bad happened. Sie werden sich hinsetzen. Sie werden ruhig sein. Sie werden nicht beleidigen Deutschland. You will sit down. You will shut up. You will not insult Germany. (Throws his hand up in a Hitler salute.)
Brian : Uh, is that a beer hall?
Tour guide: (Snapping out of it) Oh yes, Munich is renowned for its historic beer halls.

now..I am sorry that my people killed all the jews......but we still kicked Frances ass...that has to be worth something....

Your people didn't kill anyone man, they're not YOURS. They are people from your country.

I don't understand patriotism as it is, let alone insisting that you were in SOME way responsible for what Hitler did.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Your people didn't kill anyone man, they're not YOURS. They are people from your country.

I don't understand patriotism as it is, let alone insisting that you were in SOME way responsible for what Hitler did.

-AC

Oh god...I need so many walls to bang my heads on it's not even funny....it was a joke......god......

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh god...I need so many walls to bang my heads on it's not even funny....it was a joke......god......

dont mind AC 😂 i guess the new crop of 'special' fungus has just hit the market

Originally posted by PVS
dont mind AC 😂 i guess the new crop of 'special' fungus has just hit the market

i think he just likes to promote his opinion......I should know....I do too....by the way...I have an opinion...it rocks 😄

only one opinion?

Originally posted by PVS
only one opinion?

Yes only one...and it's the best in the world.........