Ken vs. Ryu

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Ryu is also training under Oro.

* official statement from capcom states that in the 1st Street Fighter Tournament, Sagat actually kicked Ryu's premature butt. as Sagat was about to offer his hand to Ryu - who was battling inside himself (the killing intent urges), sees desperation to win a fight, split-second succumbs to the dark urge, performs a cheap shot Metsu Shoryuken on the unsuspecting Sagat... Ryu wins the tourney cheaply. ironically, Ryu was always profiled with the word "honor", and there was no honor on what he did on Sagat...

* Ryu, on the other hand, rejected the dark urge however. because he now learns that it is not necessary to kill just to win a battle.

* Ken has this powerful potential enough to beat Ryu... Ryu is just the main character...

Ryu will just crush Ken. Come on!

Ryu has more endurance.. is more focused, calm and precise than ken... he trained in the mountains his entire life... ken is a little too preppy to deal with that kind of rough housing

Like I said, by SF II (A full what? Thirteen years after the original game or so) Ken and RYu are about even. You add this up with the fact that Ken doesn't practice quite nearly as much as Ryu and actually maintains a healthy normal life and you have someone who has incredible power at less demand.

Ryu eats, breathes, and lives the fight...
Ken chills, blazes his wife, and trains less often...

Yet, Ken is faster, more agile, and learns more moves that Ryu.

Something doesnt quite make sense there...

I don't recall him having more moves. Just variations of the ones Ryu has. Then again, I didn't play much of the third game because it bored me.

In Street Fighter III : 3rd strike, Ryu is more powerful... while ken is all about speed... I think in like 5 consecutive hits or somwheres around there ryu can knock you dizzy.. ken it takes double..
to compare their damage types I'd say it would be like :

Ken : 20 hit super combo 30 damage

Ryu : 3 hit shin-shoryuken 45 damage

also, for their hurricane kicks.. ken will bust out a 5 peice combo that wont knock his enemy down.. where ryu knocks them down on the first spin.. so I'd say thats quite powerful

ryu is explosive in his subtlety, while ken is always making up for his lack of technique by speed

Someone on this site said it best Ken=Flashy and Ryu=Efficent.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Ryu has more endurance.. is more focused, calm and precise than ken... he trained in the mountains his entire life... ken is a little too preppy to deal with that kind of rough housing
Not really. Ken trained w/him. He's been there and done that. Don't let his preppiness fool you.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Ryu eats, breathes, and lives the fight...
Ken chills, blazes his wife, and trains less often...

Yet, Ken is faster, more agile, and learns more moves that Ryu.

Something doesnt quite make sense there...

Ken's always been considered a "natural"

training is far different than continuing with it long after your master's death.. which I think ryu carries out much more effeciently.. having no other life obligations than to train.. and hopefully take a bath every so often

lol

Yeah, a bath helps.

Well, Ryu is probably better in the long run, but Ken is a natural.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Ryu eats, breathes, and lives the fight...
Ken chills, blazes his wife, and trains less often...

Yet, Ken is faster, more agile, and learns more moves that Ryu.

Something doesnt quite make sense there...

* it surely does, dude. that explains why Ken got more potential than Ryu. Ken has always equalled Ryu inspite of Ryu's lifelong training. Ken has equalled Ryu inspite of Ken having a family.

* re: killing intent. Ken will never have a dark urge like Ryu. Ken is also quite attached to the "real" world to succumb to the dark urge.

* give Ken that lifelong training that Ryu endured, and Ken will beat the crap out of Ryu without breaking a sweat...

Actually... I don't recall Ken Equalling Ryu... The only time Ken ever defeated Ryu was in Alpha 2, and that was when Ryu was distracted.

I could cite the fact that Ryu defeated Akuma, while Ken received one backhand from Akuma and was knocked out... And no, Ken was fully attacking Akuma during this One hit KO wonder.

I recall in the Street Fighter II manual that they were described as virtually identical in fighting ability. Of course, Ryu went on to become everyone's favorite character after SSFIIT, so anyways...

Ryu's always portrayed as being a slightly better fighter when it comes to fighting Akuma or something, but when ever he fights Ken, its a stalemate or (in that one situation) Ken beat him. It's never a decisive victory, one over the other. This could too mean that they know each other quite well, but Ken did not understand Akuma well because he did not have the Killing Intent. Just a thought.

Also... what's with everyone in SFAII being pwned because they were distracted? Sheesh.

Maybe this scan could help how there there fighting stlyes are different from each other.

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/8767/10242005091930pm0nz.jpg

Originally posted by dvampire
Maybe this scan could help how there there fighting stlyes are different from each other.

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/8767/10242005091930pm0nz.jpg

* cool pic...

* yes, i agree... look at this twisted logic...

Akuma > Ken
Ryu > Akuma

so = Ryu > Ken... weird!!!

* IMO, it's much like this...

Akuma >>> Ryu
Akuma >>> Ken
Akuma > Evil Ryu
Ken >/= Ryu

* Ryu beating Akuma doesn't mean Ryu beating Ken as well... Ken knows Ryu like the back of his hand... Ken never loses to anyone, and that's a fact...

* Akuma probably had a 1-hit KO on Ken, because a man who mastered the killent intent was too much for him... Ryu held his own on Akuma only because he too, was being seduced to the dark urge...

* set aside Akuma, Ken versus Ryu is equal...

Originally posted by peejayd

* Ryu beating Akuma doesn't mean Ryu beating Ken as well... Ken knows Ryu like the back of his hand... Ken never loses to anyone, and that's a fact...

Sorry Jay, but Ken has lost before, Akuma beat him.

And as I said, every even match they have had has been a draw, the only time Ryu lost to Ken is when he didn't have his mind on the fight.

So I sgree with you, they are even.

lol ken never loses to anyone rofl

ken fans are starting to get as rabid as wolverine ones

play sf3 : 3rd strike.. see the difference (its most recent).. I dont care about old crap like alpha saying they're equal... 3rd strike is most recent.. and in turn more relevant

From the plot guide

He feels sad/lonely because Ken’s fighting ability hasn’t
changed/improved much, now that he has been domesticated. Ryu states to Ken in SF3 that he still has the better win record.