Originally posted by samisheI guess he meant "that too".
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Btw...when Spiderman and Venom were fighting ensemble against Carnage and Spidey used these giant boxes to sonic them down and he was affraid to harm Venom too much, Venom said he should keep doing it, cause he is more durable and stronger than his "son"...and he was.
Venom wins this, as always. ✅
Originally posted by wannabe
I guess he meant "that [B]too".Btw...when Spiderman and Venom were fighting ensemble against Carnage and Spidey used these giant boxes to sonic them down and he was affraid to harm Venom too much, Venom said he should keep doing it, cause he is more durable and stronger than his "son"...and he was.
Venom wins this, as always. ✅ [/B]
👆 Nice example. Almost forgot about it.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
Actually, Venom doesn't lose to Carnage very often. In all of their meetings, Carnage has beaten Venom twice. The most notable defeat was in Carnage Unleashed, where Venom kicked his ass through the internet.
I'm bringing only examples when Venom handed him with bare hands.
In unlished Carnage was burnt.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I say Carnage but....how is it that spider-man and venom had to team up to beat Carnage, and Toxin almost killed Carnage...then spider-man beat the crap outta Toxin in the Toxin series? It just makes no sense.
Again, forget about that damn "Savage alliance"! Since then Venom owned Carnage one-on-one many times.
Well, Carnage has more strength than Venom and has the ability to morph he limbs in to weapons...on the t.v show I think he turned into a tank I cant really recall because I was very young but according to what I have heard Carnage would win this I dont have a favorite outta the 2 so If u show some good evidence I'll porbably go with Venom but with what I've seen Carnage would win.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006Reasonably spoken, though there are differences in strength, Spidey, Venom, Carnage and Toxin are pretty much on the same power level. The outcome of a fight depends on more things than pure strength statistics, so A winning against B and B winning against C does not nesessarily mean that A has to win against C each time.
I say Carnage but....how is it that spider-man and venom had to team up to beat Carnage, and Toxin almost killed Carnage...then spider-man beat the crap outta Toxin in the Toxin series? It just makes no sense.
Well having about twice the strength of someone in the 10tons class certainly counts for something, but it's faaar from outclassing the '10tonner'.
And again, superior strength does not guarantee you a win! It may shift the odds in your favour, but thats all. And there are still other factors deciding the outcome of a fight.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Well, Carnage has more strength than Venom and has the ability to morph he limbs in to weapons...on the t.v show I think he turned into a tank I cant really recall because I was very young but according to what I have heard Carnage would win this I dont have a favorite outta the 2 so If u show some good evidence I'll porbably go with Venom but with what I've seen Carnage would win.
Well on TV show they both turned tanks.
You must've seen "Savage alliance"
Evidence?
Originally posted by wannabe
Reasonably spoken, though there are differences in strength, Spidey, Venom, Carnage and Toxin are pretty much on the same power level. The outcome of a fight depends on more things than pure strength statistics, so A winning against B and B winning against C does not nesessarily mean that A has to win against C each time.
Toxin is an exception, he has been listed by Spiderfan as class 75. he absolutley handled Carnage who should be about 25 and beat the wrecker who I belive is what 80 or so?
Toxin is in a league of his own compared too them.... kinda makes Venom and Carnage look weak 🙁
Originally posted by Marcellus
Toxin is an exception, he has been listed by Spiderfan as class 75. he absolutley handled Carnage who should be about 25 and beat the wrecker who I belive is what 80 or so?Toxin is in a league of his own compared too them.... kinda makes Venom and Carnage look weak 🙁
Carnage and Venom are both around class 50.
And still it depends on the writer. Venom for example have been showed even above 50 for a few times
Originally posted by samisheAt least Venom often talks about being twice as strong as Spidey.
Carnage and Venom are both around class 50.
And still it depends on the writer. Venom for example have been showed even above 50 for a few times
topic: Venom still wins against Carnage most of the time.
Originally posted by wannabe
At least Venom often talks about being [B]twice as strong as Spidey.
And yes all their strength levels depend strongly on the writer.
Even Spidey has occasionally shown strength feats, that would normally need him to be in the 50 tons and above class, so what?!
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Are you talking about holding Daily Bugle building?
Originally posted by samisheWOW, there was some author exaggerating in the extreme!!! Such a feat would place Venom in the 100 tons class. But is he? 😉
Are you talking about holding Daily Bugle building?
I know of no occasion in which Spidey held a building that big, no. But he held smaller houses about to shatter and train waggons, all of which would need a far higher strength class than he oficially is in. So what?! 😉
Originally posted by wannabe
WOW, there was some author exaggerating in the extreme!!! Such a feat would place Venom in the 100 tons class. But is he? 😉I know of no occasion in which Spidey held a building that big, no. But he held smaller houses about to shatter and train waggons, all of which would need a far higher strength class than he oficially is in. So what?! 😉
Yeah, before upgrade Spider-man held things that weight at least 15 tonnes.
According to this logic Venom (class 50) is should be capable of lifting 75 tonnes. 😛
Chek Spidey respect thread. There are scans of Spider-man holding one supporting beam of Daily Bugle. (last page)