Originally posted by leonheartmm
not really even by ur logic gs, jean POSSES the power of the pheonix force but even if she didnt have that power, shed still be one of the top ten mutants, and her power of the pheonix can manifest in different ways, as pheonix, as dark pheonix or as the cosmic power of the real pheonix{the abstract}
See Leon i like this. Proper discussion. Lets stick with this.
The Phoenix force isnt an abstract. Its just energy. The power of creation. Jeans mutation allows her to tap into this power. Jean literally is phoenix. Her mutation allowed her to tap into the power of creation and reform as a higher being. She chose the name Phoenix as a symbol of that rebirth. Thats how it was originally and thats what it was reverted to a few years back. The firebird is just a physical manifestation of her power. Its not a seperate being. (That idea was the old phoenix retcon 86-02)
Originally posted by leonheartmm
i give up man, looks like ur not willin to listen to anythin GS.
What is there that im not getting in your argument Leon? Seriously spell it out for me because ive read it and it changes nothing. Thats all. Its not that im just ignoring your points. The thread maker said its current Jean, current continuity. Therefore i typed up my previous post to let you know that theres no seperating Jean from Phoenix because she is phoenix. Its her mutation to be phoenix and to tap into the power of creation. The conditions are all down to the thread maker. Remember that.
Originally posted by King KAM
the man is an idiot
Naive ... maybe, a little
Stubborn .... more Stubborn than Winston Churchill
Pretentious .... a tad / but not as bad as many
Patronising .... yes, in fact on a regular basis
Humorous .... yes, (although he thinks he's thinks he's Jack Dee)
Idiot ? ..... I disagree.
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Originally posted by yahman
Naive ... maybe, a little
Stubborn .... more Stubborn than Winston Churchill
Pretentious .... a tad / but not as bad as many
Patronising .... yes, in fact on a regular basis
Humorous .... yes, (although he thinks he's thinks he's Jack Dee)Idiot ? ..... I disagree.
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gs i have listened to ur points n ive told u exactly why uve misinterpreted the current pheonix because of ur love for the character, but ur not willin to listen n im done tryin to make u , its just annoyin when sum1 wont even try to listen to sumthin logical while i try as hard as possible to understand their point of view
Originally posted by leonheartmm
gs i have listened to ur points n ive told u exactly why uve misinterpreted the current pheonix because of ur love for the character, but ur not willin to listen n im done tryin to make u , its just annoyin when sum1 wont even try to listen to sumthin logical while i try as hard as possible to understand their point of view
I know what im talking about and i can direct you to many a website or post many a scan to support myself. Have you thought for one second that i could actually be right. You disagree with me yet havent been able to put up a decent counter. Anyway we're getting ahead of ourselves. I was talking about in relation to this topic. What ive posted about jean and the relationship with phoenix on this topic is very true thats not debatable. If you want to debate the kaballah stuff then fair enough. But i can assure you im correct on this:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I know what im talking about and i can direct you to many a website or post many a scan to support myself. Have you thought for one second that i could actually be right. You disagree with me yet havent been able to put up a decent counter. Anyway we're getting ahead of ourselves. I was talking about in relation to this topic. What ive posted about jean and the relationship with phoenix on this topic is very true thats not debatable. If you want to debate the kaballah stuff then fair enough. But i can assure you im correct on this:
i have actually, and if u havent noticed ive exlpained that iver read al the new comics and now believe that pheonix could be equal to or higher than eternity{sumthin that was ridiculous to me before n sumthin which i dont like, but i accept it anyway} but i have neither read or seenn anythin to even slightly say that pheonix is the power of toaa and is on par with the tribunal.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
i have actually, and if u havent noticed ive exlpained that iver read al the new comics and now believe that pheonix could be equal to or higher than eternity{sumthin that was ridiculous to me before n sumthin which i dont like, but i accept it anyway} but i have neither read or seenn anythin to even slightly say that pheonix is the power of toaa and is on par with the tribunal.
Well you're making progress Leon 😉 . Its just a case of building on whats there. Well we know that Phoenix is greater than Eternity because her energies created him. If you'd read Xmen Forever (especially issue 6) you'd know this.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Well you're making progress Leon 😉 . Its just a case of building on whats there. Well we know that Phoenix is greater than Eternity because her energies created him. If you'd read Xmen Forever (especially issue 6) you'd know this.
THIS is exactly the kinda attitude im talkin about, u dont realize that i have changed my point of view, n ur willin to think about anythin other than ur own point of view, u dont realize that u have no proof of anythin other than pheonix beein at or slightly higher than eternity
Originally posted by leonheartmm
THIS is exactly the kinda attitude im talkin about, u dont realize that i have changed my point of view, n ur willin to think about anythin other than ur own point of view, u dont realize that u have no proof of anythin other than pheonix beein at or slightly higher than eternity
Thats putting the 'old fart' in his place !!!!!!!!!!
G.S., maybe your the one who could do with a 'helping hand' 🙂