Street Tourney Match #4

Originally posted by stormfront13
hate to say it chris, but you are outmatched.

I'm stronger, more than likely faster, have better long ranged attacks, actually have a spider-sence, and your only protection is going to get blown up.

There is no way in hell you are stronger. No way in hell you are faster. Black Panther and Deadpool are both excellent dodgers in their own right.

Siryn is not a bomb and yes she will get tired. She does need air to breath and yes Dazzler does need sound to manipulate and so far she doesn't have a strong source of it.

Originally posted by stormfront13
it's the truth, you think dazzler still needs constant sound to use her powers. that by itself is one of the stupidest things I have ever read.

I didn't say she needs constant sound. I said she needs sound to manipulate. And keeping up a force field and expending a ton of light bullets rapidly is seriously going to take a toll on your reserves.

because I am. spider-ggirl can lift from 15-20 tons. you can't. and she isn't a rookie, she has tons of expierence, you obviously have never read her book.

I believe 15 tons was the established max for base characters. So calm down. That means my strength stacks higher than yours. Dazzle and Siryn couldnt' even bench 150.

I posted it in fight number one, and in the general discussion. i don't really care if your not okay with it, I have a good amalgam. with siryn, dazzler becomes more powerful which makes the shields more powerful. your trying to penalize me for stragetizing.

I am not penalizing your for strategizing. I'm just saying you don't have a constant force field that could keep God himself out of it. Stop crying because your character can't fight. Street level is all about fighting so I chose my characters accordingly.

what your saying is BS because shields don't work that way and you knwo it. this is an act of desperation. besides, dazzlers been immune to her powers.

Last time I checked you were rockin a Spider-Girl III body. Not a Dazzler body. Wasn't this the whole point of choosing a body? For it's attributes? Special powers and brains transferred but not body attributes?

In real life if you erected a laser force field around yourself I sure hope you don't try to jump through it. Face it, shields do work that way. It's not a firm protective shield. It's a desintigrating shield. Psi-webs are not immune to it. Your scream? That melts your webs just as much as it does mine.

this is where I doubt you know anything about my characters. spider-WOMAN is not a rookie, and has tons of expierence. dazzler is a very capable martial artist and has Dazzler has been fighting a duerilla war in the Mojoverse for several years, and has tons of combat expierence. she has beaten absorbing man, and the hulk, and given people like enchantress trouble. and siryn has been fighting all her life and has a lot of expierence. she has been trained by senior x-men including people like wolverine and banshee, and she has been trained by deadpool, so i know how you fight. also dazzler has been trained by longshot on how to fight.

Oh yes we all remember the time Dazzle issued all those Kung-Fu beatdowns. Please, stop trying to bring h2h into this, it's a losing battle.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha lol, that was really funny. you didn't even go the link that was provided for spider-woman did you. it clearly states that she has htem, and shows pictures of her using them. you can't shred psi-webbing, even hulk couldn't get past, and it's held jets while they were flying.

ha ha hahahahahahaha. Doesn't help your arguement. You better lower your shields to use them. Honestly, the amalgam you have is a very good one. It's just in very incompetant hands.

you have no proof of having a spider-sence, and have been easily hit before.

There was no proof that I didn't have one? It's all moot anyway since it's been revoked for some reason. I still don't buy the whole we'll give him every single one of Spidermans powers but the Spidersense arguement; but whatever.

no matter how much will power you have, you can't stop your equilibrum from being affected. it's a fact.

i don't know when, but I know he has. besides, they were lovers for a while. i never said it equals martial arts master, but it shows that I'm not as bad as you think I am in fighting.

I have almost every single issue Deadpool has ever appeared in. I have never seen any training sessions for Siryn. I've seen Deadpool breaking her out of jail and fighting a whole battle practicially by himself because Siryn was pretty useless. I'm not seeing any training sessions.

you won't even be able to move. dazzler is on par with cyke when it comes to aim, and he's one of the best. and once again, as much as you would like to believe you have a spider-sence, you don't. and I have already explained why they would go through vibranium.

Dazzle is DEFINATELY not on par with Cyke. I'm sorry; that's almost as ridiculous as your Black Bolt comparison to Siryn.

omfg, don't even give him any shit. you have people defending you and you don't see me crying about it.

Show me one person who has given you points? Come on now. Let's be realistic, you wouldn't even have looked up the word equilibrium and learned it if it wasn't for Khellandros. I think that whole arguement should be striken from the record for the mere fact that he introduced it.

I'm at you and through your field and your in pieces before there is any effect on my suit.

Peace.

Siryn is not a bomb and yes she will get tired. She does need air to breath and yes Dazzler does need sound to manipulate and so far she doesn't have a strong source of it.

What I meant by strong is that it is not at it's full potency and there is gaps for breaths every so often.

I can't wait to here about how Dazzler and Siryn can hang with Black Panther and Deadpool h2h again.

Espionage - 3/4?
Whirly
Dizzle
K von Doom?
Nataku

Skriek - 1

Khellandros

Boo and Yeah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelganger_%28comics%29

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I haven't voted yet, it's still early going and I'm waiting to see how this pans out. It seems that there's a question of how much of Siryn's scream Blackpathther's armor could absorb. SF has the range advantage but 8Bit has the fighting skill advantage. Is the Doppelganger's body durable enough, can the armor absorb enough, to withstand the range beating to make his fighting skills count? Also how long can Siryn keep up her scream? I know SW has greater durability but Siryn already has greater vocal chord durability than SW, so I don't think adding SW to Siryn will make much difference. I'm thinking, while Siryn's scream is powerful, she still has to breathe like a normal person which gives 8Bit's character time to maneuver. But I'm still undecided

"The first, Wakandan Vibranium, is found almost exclusively in the tiny African nation of Wakanda. Wakandan Vibranium, though as yet unknown means, absorbs vibratory energy in its vicinity, such as sound waves, with in itself. The apparent observable vibratory rate of the molecules of the Vibranium itself does not increase when the Vibranium absorbs mechanical energy. The outside vibratory energy is stored within the bonds between the molecules making up the Vibranium. As a result, a chunk of Vibranium, which has absorbed a considerable amount of vibratory energy, would be exceedingly hard to demolish. If enough force were applied to this chunk to smash it the Vibranium would explode, releasing much of the absorbed energy. There are limits to the capacity of Vibranium to absorb vibratory energy, although the exact extent of these limits has not yet been determined. For example, in recent years the oil conglomerate Roxxon discovered that a certain small island in the South Atlantic had a foundation composed of Wakandan Vibranium. Roxxon found it necessary to destroy the island and blew it up with bombs. Unable to absorb the force of the explosion, the Vibranium was destroyed, but it did succeed in entirely absorbing the sound made by the explosion."

For the record, Siryn does not = enough bombs to blow up an island. If she did, she would be leveling cities all the time.

Spider-woman III does not have loads of experience or a Spider Sense. She has the pre-cognitive flashes but of all the Spider women she absorbed there was no spider sense. So she does not have it. Which makes this important due to the fact that she is making the reaction herself and it's not an instictive reaction.

If my armor were to absorb too much vibrations and I felt there was sufficient force for it to break I would remove my torso armor, toss it through one of the lapses in the force field with a grenade in the middle of it and watch the thing detonate releasing all the stored vibratory energy and shrapnel onto Skriek; effectively shredding her character and smashing her with concusive force..

I'm done for tonight. I post too much.

No hard feelings Storm. I'm just really competative and get caught up in the debate every now and then. Try to ignore my debating attitude.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
For the record, Siryn does not = enough bombs to blow up an island. If she did, she would be leveling cities all the time.

I'm gonna vote Chris right now good debate but something about Storm's strategy doesn't pan out and I think Chris has shown he has an advantage somewhere.

leaning toward!?!

8BitChris PM'd me with a couple bios that list spider-sense as being one of Doppleganger's powers. I'll let you decide for yourself whether or not to include it in your decision, but at least there's evidence that he does...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showpost.php?p=6926384&postcount=10

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelganger_%28comics%29

Originally posted by DigiMark007
8BitChris PM'd me with a couple bios that list spider-sense as being one of Doppleganger's powers. I'll let you decide for yourself whether or not to include it in your decision, but at least there's evidence that he does...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showpost.php?p=6926384&postcount=10

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelganger_%28comics%29

not in the comic books there ain't... not from what I've seen.....

if anyone's got a pic of doppleganger's spidey sense going off and him reacting to it accordingly though... I'd be happy to see it and finally put this thing to rest...

dazzler will die very very fast. have u look at dead pools powers latly in the newest hand book he is in his strength was at super human level 1 my bets he like at the lowest u can be from the list of 800pounds to 24tons. but still 800 is a lot to left and he also very agile and his healing gunna make it impossable to dazzler to win not to mention he level 6 fight otu of a list from 1 to 7 soo ya he plain out classes her.

for the other two matches I have no idea

Originally posted by 8bitChris
I know enough about your characters. I know they are great fighters. I know Dazzler has never broken anything like vibranium. Neither of them are strong enough to carry their own book. They've both been owned by plenty of people who arn't even close to any of my characters lvl.

you obviously don't. you didn't know that spider-woman had spider-legs, you didn't know that dazzler didn't need constant sound to use her powers, and you didn't know that siryns scream could go in all directions. YOU DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE LINKS I PROVIDED. dazzler has never tried her powers against vibranium, but it has been stated multiple times from black panther writers that vibranium isn't as durable as diamond, and lasers easily cut through diamond. b this logic, dazzlers powers would easily go through vibranium.

Siryn is not a bomb and yes she will get tired. She does need air to breath and yes Dazzler does need sound to manipulate and so far she doesn't have a strong source of it.

you do realize that even if siryn breathes that dazzler will have energy to spare right? i really doubt you knowing anything abooout my character because dazzler has never ran out of sound before. she has given people like enchantress, hulk, juggernaut trouble, and straight out DEFEATED ABSORBING MAN WITH ONE HIT AND STILL HAD ENERGY TO SPARE.

And keeping up a force field and expending a ton of light bullets rapidly is seriously going to take a toll on your reserves.

no it won't, you should read about dazzler before you make assumptions like that.

I believe 15 tons was the established max for base characters. So calm down. That means my strength stacks higher than yours. Dazzle and Siryn couldnt' even bench 150.

I would like to know how your strength is higher than mine, seriously.

I am not penalizing your for strategizing. I'm just saying you don't have a constant force field that could keep God himself out of it. Stop crying because your character can't fight. Street level is all about fighting so I chose my characters accordingly.

it can't keep god out, but anything you throw at it it can keep out. you have a weak ass cxharacter, nothing you can do is getting past my force-field.

In real life if you erected a laser force field around yourself I sure hope you don't try to jump through it. Face it, shields do work that way. It's not a firm protective shield. It's a desintigrating shield. Psi-webs are not immune to it. Your scream? That melts your webs just as much as it does mine.

it doesn't have to disenegrate things, and even if it did I would still be ok.

Oh yes we all remember the time Dazzle issued all those Kung-Fu beatdowns. Please, stop trying to bring h2h into this, it's a losing battle.

I'm just saying that my character has more fighting skills than you think. and it's not going to be a h2h fight anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Dazzle is DEFINATELY not on par with Cyke. I'm sorry; that's almost as ridiculous as your Black Bolt comparison to Siryn.

ugh...yes she is. it has been stated by X writers that she is on par with aiming skills. but you don't know anything about dazzler so....

I'm at you and through your field and your in pieces before there is any effect on my suit.

your character isn't that strong, it can't get through the force-field.

Spider-woman III does not have loads of experience or a Spider Sense. She has the pre-cognitive flashes but of all the Spider women she absorbed there was no spider sense. So she does not have it. Which makes this important due to the fact that she is making the reaction herself and it's not an instictive reaction

yes she does have a spider-sence, she has used it before. and also, she copied all the powers of spider-man and then all the spider-woman. she has a spider-sence.

If my armor were to absorb too much vibrations and I felt there was sufficient force for it to break I would remove my torso armor, toss it through one of the lapses in the force field with a grenade in the middle of it and watch the thing detonate releasing all the stored vibratory energy and shrapnel onto Skriek; effectively shredding her character and smashing her with concusive force..

fine, if you take the armor off, then I'l kill ypou with a lazer. your armor isn't getting through the force-field.

alright, everyone.....

1)his only protection is going to explode. vibranium explodes when it absorbs too much sonic vibrations.

2)my lasers will go through his vibranium. it has been stated many times by panther writers that vibranium isn't as durable as diamoind, and lasers easily cut through diamonds.

3)dazzler with her own energy reserves have survived punches from the classic juggernaut.

4)he might not have a spider-sence

5)dazzler has defeated absorbing man with one hit and still had energy to spare

stragety one- when the fight starts, I put up a force-field, and create a light-fog. espionage can't see through this, he is completley blind. then I use my webbing to wrap him up. after he is webbed up, then I shoot my powerful lasers at him while screaming, which will get me stronger by the second.

stragety 2- I put up a force-field, create light-fog, and scream with my two sonic screams, which will power me up and explode his armor.

also, digi. not to be picky or anything, but chris didn't vote in any of the fights, so is he deducted a point?

We've both said our peace. Things are just getting reiterated right now.

1. My vibranium isn't going to explode. It has never been tested to its limits. It'll get much tougher, and that will keep the lasers out. The only documented case of vibranium exploding was a lot of bombs being dropped on an island. That's no gauge to measure how Siryn would do against vibranium. She doesn't lack the punch of one island leveling bomb let alone many. So I think my armor will hang tight enough to get to her with the speed I use to do it. Think of it this way, the more vibratory energy my armor stores the stronger it gets. (See FF #53)

2)my lasers will go through his vibranium. it has been stated many times by panther writers that vibranium isn't as durable as diamoind, and lasers easily cut through diamonds.

Many times? Show us two times. That's all I ask. Even if a beam of laser does pierce it'll heal back up in a jiffy.

4)he might not have a spider-sence

So? A lot of characters don't have a Spidey sense and dodge things on a rountine basis. (e.g. Batman, Black Panther, Deadpool) Not everything is an automatic connect. Dazzler is no Cyclops with aim.

5)dazzler has defeated absorbing man with one hit and still had energy to spare

She absorbed a Blackbolt scream. Blackbolt is not anywhere near our battlefield. It was another one of AM's losses because of stupidity. Are you trying to say that Dazzler is greater than AM? I hope not.

stragety one- when the fight starts, I put up a force-field, and create a light-fog. espionage can't see through this, he is completley blind. then I use my webbing to wrap him up. after he is webbed up, then I shoot my powerful lasers at him while screaming, which will get me stronger by the second.

stragety 2- I put up a force-field, create light-fog, and scream with my two sonic screams, which will power me up and explode his armor.

Her sonic screams she is using to power up make an all ready shakey foundation of canyon more rattly than it should be. Immediately Espionage climbs up the wall tosses two well placed grenades to shatter the rock wall above Skriek, then flipping his gas grenade into the falling debris he leaps out of the canyon cluster bombing the the area above Skriek burying her in rock and gas. If she manages to dig herself out of the rubble expending her stored light sources she used to maintain a force field and dig out then she'll get razor webbed and gutted.

also, digi. not to be picky or anything, but chris didn't vote in any of the fights, so is he deducted a point?

That is being picky.

For the record, Spider Woman III does not have the powers of Spiderman.

She has the powers of the other Spider woman and he origin and attaining of her powers is in no way related to Peter Parker. None of the other women had Spider sense. So she doesn't either. Just some precog flashes.

I don't remember any Spider Woman ever being stronger than Spiderman.

Stormfront has had all his best powers removed.
8BitChris wins.