Originally posted by Scoobless
The trio has a very limited supply of weapons.... 20 arrows each or something.... what's to stop Spidey hitting their quivers with webbing, stopping them from drawing out any arrows?
That's the problem I see too. Web attacks would just be too effective against these guys
Originally posted by marvelprince
I know Gambit is an excellent h2h combat, but I was just pointing out that his strength is in his ranged attacks (his cards). Besides when compared to Spider-Man his enhanced abilities don't really say much.In the ish where Wolverine stabbed Spidey they were having a simple sparring match which Spider-Man wasn't even taking seriously. Spider-Man has punked Wolverine before by just webbing him up with his fists stuck to head. Besides, if Wolverine really wanted to stab Gambit I'm pretty sure he could.
Gambit's strength is not in his cards. It's one of his strengths but he does more than just throw cards.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Spider-Man can't dodge arrows and cards?
Originally posted by marvelprince
But thats why I think these guys will lose. They are all marksman and have insanely accurate shots. They're not gonna just fire wild shots, they're gonna aim and try to take down Spidey which with precision.
Originally posted by StyleTime
No Wolverine could not. Wolverine has been seriously trying to stab Gambit EVERYTIME they fight. Gambit is usually playing around and never gets stabbed.Gambit's strength is not in his cards. It's one of his strengths but he does more than just throw cards.
He can't dodge all of the effects of the arrows/whatever Gambit decides to throw.
They all frequently use indirect shooting. Hawkeye usually shoots that sunburst arrow around the target and not directly at him. Gambit also frequently aims to make environmental hazards when he throws cards.
K, this isn't a Wolverine vs Gambit thread so I'll back off with that, but you are right about Gambit dodging Wolverine, I take back what I said.
But I have to disagree about Gambit's strength. His strength is in this explosive projectiles. Not to say he's not bad-ass without them, but ability is his biggest assest. Just like one of Spider-Man's biggest strength is his spider-sense, w/o it he becomes way less effective.
They all may use indirect shooting, but usually they try to hit their targets. If that doesn't work then they'll switch. Which method they decide to use shouldn't matter much to Spidey since his spider-sense will alert him to danger no matter where its coming from.
And like scoobles said what to stop Spidey from webbing their quivers to prevent them from using their arrows, or from webbing their hands to their bows when they're preparing to fire or webbing Gambit's hands before he gets to launch his cards?
Oh and Conner Hawke is one bad mo' fo'
Originally posted by StyleTime
Not to mention, Spiderman has been stabbed by Wolverine in hand to hand. Gambit has not.
Actually wolverine has beaten Gambit. he managed to even pin him to the floor with his claws either side of Gambit's neck, ready to pop the middle claw straight through Remy's neck.
I think spidey takes this. We are talking about a guy who dodges lasers, bullets knives and explosions every day of the week.
Originally posted by willRules
Actually wolverine has beaten Gambit. he managed to even pin him to the floor with his claws either side of Gambit's neck, ready to pop the middle claw straight through Remy's neck.
Wolverine beating Gambit is PIS/CIS.
Originally posted by marvelprince
K, this isn't a Wolverine vs Gambit thread so I'll back off with that, but you are right about Gambit dodging Wolverine, I take back what I said.
Originally posted by marvelprince
But I have to disagree about Gambit's strength. His strength is in this explosive projectiles. Not to say he's not bad-ass without them, but ability is his biggest assest. Just like one of Spider-Man's biggest strength is his spider-sense, w/o it he becomes way less effective.
Originally posted by marvelprince
They all may use indirect shooting, but usually they try to hit their targets. If that doesn't work then they'll switch. Which method they decide to use shouldn't matter much to Spidey since his spider-sense will alert him to danger no matter where its coming from.
Originally posted by marvelprince
And like scoobles said what to stop Spidey from webbing their quivers to prevent them from using their arrows, or from webbing their hands to their bows when they're preparing to fire or webbing Gambit's hands before he gets to launch his cards?
Personally I just think Spidey is too fast to be hit by just arrows and cards:
Juggy trying to hit him
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Dodging simultaneous blasts from a guy named Chance, who has a suit equipped with a targeting computer
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And these were before his Spidersense and speed up grade from "The Other" storyline.
Originally posted by StyleTime
And Gambit has beaten Wolverine. He managed to even get Wolverine down on the ground with a charged staff on Wolverine's throat. Gambit said "Just for the record. Bang. You dead."Wolverine beating Gambit is PIS/CIS.
Actually in that issue Logan's healing was screwed up and he wasn't at his full health. It was mentioned in the issue just before the fight by jubilee I think.
And wolverine beating gambit isn't P.I.S or C.I.S IMO......
I don't see how Spidey would be too disadvantaged here against area wide effects. Most of those arrows which has that property and the card itself needs to hit something before they explode. It's not like their fighting somewhere with many obstructions that would get hit if suppose they miss Spider-man. Then there's the fact he can get to them closer and that they can't shoot their arrows and throw & charge their cards with instantaneous with each release like an automatic weapon or a gun.
