Something to Think About

Originally posted by WindDancer
But seeing doesn't equal evidence of existance. If I'm looking at a picture of Darth Vader does that mean that he exist? Of course not. Darth Vader is nothing but one of Lucas figment of imagination.

Now let's say I'm looking at a picture of Batman. Does that mean he exist? No, but that doesn't mean that someone can't become Batman. After all who is Batman? A highly skill Detective with incredible fighting skills and tons of gadgets that can be prototype. That isn't impossible to become. So the chances of a guy actually becoming a Batman are high. Whereas the chances of Darth Vader happening are none.

And what is the point of all this nonsense? One word "Possibility".

btw-don't mind me I was watching ROTJ and then read some Detective Comics. I just saw this thread. 😉

well it is true that seeing does not equate existance, im not too sure about ghosts, im sure theyr not there in the classic sense of the word but there is evidence to suggest that sumthing is{this i know personally}, there are things like psychics which is definately true{again ive seen what can be called undeniable proof for this before i believed} but relegion=AS STUPID AND UNTRUE AS CAN BE, the idea of god is certainly false because there is just too much against it, morally, logically andfactually, not to mention the complete absence of evidence.

Originally posted by Ladyluck
There are things, such as God, ghosts, and spirits, that many people do not believe in because they say they can't see them. This got me to wondering...

Do we need to see it to believe it? Or do we need to believe it in order to see it?

Well, to me this all goes back to the long storied debate, "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?"

One school of thought would tell you that NO if no one hears it there is no sound. But to me, that is like denying history ever happened. No one on this board was alive to see or hear the American Civil War or Great Wall of China's construction happen, so should we deny that they occurred simply because we did not witness them? I don't think so, because we still have the records of these events occurring through fossils and written accounts. And once someone finds the tree that fell, they have the proof that the tree fell, therefore sending an echo of the event into the present.

Basically what I'm saying here is that there are things in this world that are neither seen nor heard, but they exist. Visuals and sounds help with belief but are not and should not be the sole basis of the belief.

I have consulted many witches, and no-one can give me a straight answer on if it would be hanus to do a spell I had planned. (Obviously it's something that is a hex, but not in the sense it puts people in immideate danger..) If I meet any athiest or atagnoist or anyone else who would deny God and the other-world.. I will make an invitation circle to thier household.. and they will know first-hand, that what I say is true. Unfourtanately for them they will have to learn the hard way..

Originally posted by Spelljammer
I have consulted many witches, and no-one can give me a straight answer on if it would be hanus to do a spell I had planned. (Obviously it's something that is a hex, but not in the sense it puts people in immideate danger..) If I meet any athiest or atagnoist or anyone else who would deny God and the other-world.. I will make an invitation circle to thier household.. and they will know first-hand, that what I say is true. Unfourtanately for them they will have to learn the [b]hard way.. [/B]

I don't if this level of indirection will weaken your spell. But why don't you entertain us all an put an 'invitation circle' on the whole forum.

It doesn't work that way.. Obviously if you knew anything about magick I can't just wave a wand and turn you into a toad.

Trust me, if I could do you THINK we'd even be having this discussion right now?

Maybe you're a nice person and you've just been holding out on us.
I mean you must be awesome with a name like spelljammer. I have to admit, I'm a bit envious.
🙂

All i request is facts, after that i might belive than.

Both.

Originally posted by Ladyluck
There are things, such as God, ghosts, and spirits, that many people do not believe in because they say they can't see them. This got me to wondering...

Do we need to see it to believe it? Or do we need to believe it in order to see it?

There needs to be proof. I believe in air, but I can't see it. I know it's there because we can prove it's there. We can't prove the existance of God, spirits, etc.

We can prove that the air is there because we believe in proof.