Originally posted by Se7in
Agen easily. He was a legendary Shien master, capable of defeating the likes of Quinlan Vos and Sora Bulq. Saesee was known more for his piloting skills, than his lightsaber skills.
Where did you get that from? Agen was only considered a martial Jedi, there was never any details on his saber form. Saesee Tiin on the other hand was an ace pilot(better than the skywalkers imo), a good saberman in his own stead, and a was a negotiator. Saesee Tiin takes this...
Honestly I think that Saesee would win, not only because he is a better rounded Jedi (he is a good pilot, pretty strong in the force, a good fighter and a pretty good diplomat) but also because he is telepathic. He can read Agen's thoughts about his next move and distract Agen with mental messages. Agen is also considered a good fighter also
Almost ever Jedi can read thoughts. Plus, mind tricks only work on the weak minded, and Agen is nothing of that sort. And what do diplomacy skills have to do with a duel? I'm not saying Saesee isn't good, he is. He captured an entire Seperatist ship with a squad of troopers. But Agen is easily just a better swordsman.
Originally posted by Council#13
Honestly I think that Saesee would win, not only because he is a better rounded Jedi (he is a good pilot, pretty strong in the force, a good fighter and a pretty good diplomat) but also because he is telepathic. He can read Agen's thoughts about his next move and distract Agen with mental messages. Agen is also considered a good fighter also
read thoughts huh? that worked well on sids.. dident it? 😉
Saesee Tiin is an Iktochi. Saesee Tiin is obviosly a force sensitive but the Iktochi much like the Kel-Dor have natural Telepathic abilities, which further enhance his force powers....
Yet Plo koon couldn't sense 100's of Jedi getting slaughtered and every Clone near him before he got shot down. Race doesn't have that much of a dramatic effect on skill, lots of it is training and discipline. Just becausea race may have the potential to give boosts, often it has to be yielded correctly. And reading thoughts? So while having Agen destroying your defense and parrying your swings, getting Force-pushed, you're going to read thoughts to see one incoming swing? Yeah, good luck with that.
Yeh, but in the clone wars yoda sensed in the last second that coruscant was being attacked, and the dude has 900 years of wisdom, so your point is not valid..
And with the thought reading. That is not useful during the fight. Why?
You focus to much on predicting his moves you are not concentrating on the duel itself.
Oh btw if you watch closely ROTS.. you can see plo koon sense something is wrong and try to make out a manuever before they started to fire on him, you dont have to believe me, but watch VERY closely..
Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Yeh, but in the clone wars yoda sensed in the last second that coruscant was being attacked, and the dude has 900 years of wisdom, so your point is not valid..And with the thought reading. That is not useful during the fight. Why?
You focus to much on predicting his moves you are not concentrating on the duel itself.Oh btw if you watch closely ROTS.. you can see plo koon sense something is wrong and try to make out a manuever before they started to fire on him, you dont have to believe me, but watch VERY closely..
cool, i knew plo was a smart dude.
i realy dont know who would win this fight, i don't have an answer probably because im not bias twords either. all your points seem to be valid
Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Yeh, but in the clone wars yoda sensed in the last second that coruscant was being attacked, and the dude has 900 years of wisdom, so your point is not valid..And with the thought reading. That is not useful during the fight. Why?
You focus to much on predicting his moves you are not concentrating on the duel itself.Oh btw if you watch closely ROTS.. you can see plo koon sense something is wrong and try to make out a manuever before they started to fire on him, you dont have to believe me, but watch VERY closely..
Well said.
Agen. He is said to be a great swordsman. Also, had Sidious gone for Saesee first Agen may have reacted quickly enough to kill Sidious before Sidious could stab him. Maybe. Saesee had more than enough time to stab Sidious, or at least defend himself, yet somehow he was still to slow to do so so i'm gonna say Agen.