Northstar:
a) Faster
"Aurora is a mutant who possesses the ability to propel her body at superhuman speed, becoming a living projectile. Through an act of concentration, Aurora can channel a portion of the kinetic energy of the atomic motion in her body's molecules in a single direction. This can accelerate her body in a velocity in direct proportion to the amount of kinetic energy she has tapped. It was once theoretically possible for her to reach 99% of the speed of light (286,272 miles per second in a vacuum), although she never traveled at anywhere near that speed since if she did, she would wreak great damage upon herself end her environment. Dr. Langkowski's actions in molecularly restructuring Aurora's body greatly reduced the potential limits of her speed. She now can move at speeds roughly up to the speed of sound (about 770 miles per hour at sea level). This reduction has made little difference in the use of her powers over short distances, since she can still move faster than the human eye can follow."
[Alpha Flight vol.1 #19, 1984]
Aurora and Northstar have the same powers, yet she lost her potential but Northstar still has his.
b) More moves then superspeed
Thanks to the Hand he has light abilities which he can use by himself just like her sister can do after the operation. I'm assuming he can generate a light equvilant to half million-foot candles like her sister, but I don't know for sure.
c) Other goodies given to him by the Hand we don't know yet.
Written correctly, Northstar wins.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Northstar:a) Faster
"Aurora is a mutant who possesses the ability to propel her body at superhuman speed, becoming a living projectile. Through an act of concentration, Aurora can channel a portion of the kinetic energy of the atomic motion in her body's molecules in a single direction. This can accelerate her body in a velocity in direct proportion to the amount of kinetic energy she has tapped. It was once theoretically possible for her to reach 99% of the speed of light (286,272 miles per second in a vacuum), although she never traveled at anywhere near that speed since if she did, she would wreak great damage upon herself end her environment. Dr. Langkowski's actions in molecularly restructuring Aurora's body greatly reduced the potential limits of her speed. She now can move at speeds roughly up to the speed of sound (about 770 miles per hour at sea level). This reduction has made little difference in the use of her powers over short distances, since she can still move faster than the human eye can follow."[Alpha Flight vol.1 #19, 1984]
Aurora and Northstar have the same powers, yet she lost her potential but Northstar still has his.
b) More moves then superspeed
Thanks to the Hand he has light abilities which he can use by himself just like her sister can do after the operation. I'm assuming he can generate a light equvilant to half million-foot candles like her sister, but I don't know for sure.c) Other goodies given to him by the Hand we don't know yet.
Written correctly, Northstar wins.
Not that I'm calling you a liar or anything (I'm really not, seriously), but I've seen and have quite a few comics with Northstar. And I have yet to see him move anywhere near 99% light speed. In fact, most of the time, he seems to be moving around subsonic speeds. Like, maybe Mach 3 or something.
Like I said, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that I've never seen him go anywhere close to even fathoming this speed. What instances has he shown this kind of speed?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Not that I'm calling you a liar or anything (I'm really not, seriously), but I've seen and have quite a few comics with Northstar. And I have yet to see him move anywhere near 99% light speed. In fact, most of the time, he seems to be moving around subsonic speeds. Like, maybe Mach 3 or something.Like I said, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that I've never seen him go anywhere close to even fathoming this speed. What instances has he shown this kind of speed?
All of his X-Men apparances are garbage, he has taken a back seat with them and was on the front line only to be killed. If those are the comics you read, take them with a grain of salt. He hasn't gone that speed yet, same with Aurora. However, it's possible he can, and in the Alpha Flight comics he has gone Mach 10 and higher. I will give you the issue numbers shortly (tommorow afternoon, I have to rummage though them)
When he was playing around killing mortals, Mach three was what heused and he made them explode. If he did that to pretty much any human or mutant without a physical defence they would explode since he can go right through them while QS punches or kicks them. Like I mentioned already, Alpha Flight vol.1 #19, 1984 talks about how they can possibly reach 99% of lightspeed. Later I will give you the issues of his super speed.
Originally posted by long pig
Northstar wins, he can indeed fly at 99% LS.QS can go just above super sonic I think, but QS can actually fly, though. Most people don't know he can fly.
Plus, QS is behind this whole HoM thing, so he sucks.
...He can fly?
I've been a pretty hardcore fan of Quicksilver for a few years now...and I'm under the correct assumption that he can't fly. Please fill me in here.
And honestly, I've pretty much boycotted the HOM series, so I don't know anything about it.
What do you mean he's behind it?
Originally posted by long pig
Northstar wins, he can indeed fly at 99% LS.QS can go just above super sonic I think, but QS can actually fly, though. Most people don't know he can fly.
Plus, QS is behind this whole HoM thing, so he sucks.
Indeed
Actually I didn't know that. What's he do make current of wind and ride them?
Indeed, I saw the preview of Son of M with him on the cover dressed as a bum.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
All of his X-Men apparances are garbage, he has taken a back seat with them and was on the front line only to be killed. If those are the comics you read, take them with a grain of salt. He hasn't gone that speed yet, same with Aurora. However, it's possible he can, and in the Alpha Flight comics he has gone Mach 10 and higher. I will give you the issue numbers shortly (tommorow afternoon, I have to rummage though them)When he was playing around killing mortals, Mach three was what heused and he made them explode. If he did that to pretty much any human or mutant without a physical defence they would explode since he can go right through them while QS punches or kicks them. Like I mentioned already, Alpha Flight vol.1 #19, 1984 talks about how they can possibly reach 99% of lightspeed. Later I will give you the issues of his super speed.
Okay. I guess then that would make Northstar faster.
Man. No fair. Quicksilver was the speedster of Marvel before Northstar, 😛 .
Anyway, Quicksilver still has the best name. 😎
Originally posted by King_Mungi
IndeedActually I didn't know that. What's he do make current of wind and ride them?
Indeed, I saw the preview of Son of M with him on the cover dressed as a bum.
So possibly QS will lose his powers after HoM gets done.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay. I guess then that would make Northstar faster.Man. No fair. Quicksilver was the speedster of Marvel before Northstar, 😛 .
Anyway, Quicksilver still has the best name. 😎
He is faster and has more abilities, but I like Quicksilver more
Indeed, and why don't they just kill Northstar and let him stay dead. No joke he died 3 times in one month in seperate timelines and alternate universes (Wolverine, X-men: The End vol.2 #1, AOA 10th anniversary #2)
I say bring back Aurora to her full potential and get her out of the rubbish new Weapon X book.
Originally posted by long pig
Yeah, if you look at the cover of the book you'll notice that all the normal people have "speed lines", as though they are all moving faster than QS.So possibly QS will lose his powers after HoM gets done.
Interesting perspective, it would be interesting to see him cope with life in the slow lane.
Originally posted by long pig
He used to fly pretty regularly in the 70's.The excuse was he could vibrate his thighs...really fast.
QS is supposed to be the guy who used Xavier and Wanda to make the HoM. Everyone else are just pawns in it.
Since I've never read it, this is all weird to me.
You're telling me that QS is being Wanda going all psycho and such?
That doesn't seem like his style. He loves his sister more than anyone.
I mean, not that I doubt he can be just as diabolical as his father, it's just not his scene.
So is he really not super fast in HOM? I'm sorry, just confused.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Since I've never read it, this is all weird to me.You're telling me that QS is being Wanda going all psycho and such?
That doesn't seem like his style. He loves his sister more than anyone.
I mean, not that I doubt he can be just as diabolical as his father, it's just not his scene.
So is he really not super fast in HOM? I'm sorry, just confused.
It hasn't offically been revealed he is behind the crisis of HOM yet. However, many speculate he is; due to a series that is coming out after HOM is called Son of M and has QS on the cover. He is dressed up as a bum and his clothes are tatered and worn out, making it seem he had no where to go and he was on the "run".
In HOM he still is superfast, but in Son of M from the cover looks like he loses his speed. Don't know for sure.
It seems to be that he loved his sister too much. So much so that he would have rather changed the entire world with her and xavier's power, than allow the Avengers to kill Wanda (Which is what they were going to do if QS didn't intervene.).
QS has only been shown in a few panels, not really using his speed yet. The book we're talking about is post HoM called Son of Magnus. QS seems to be a bum, probably kicked out of superherodom by the other heroes who now no longer trust him. And he seems to be hella slow on the cover, so maybe they took his powers away for what he did.
Remember back in xforce when QS lost his power for a day? He almost went crazy.
Originally posted by long pig
It seems to be that he loved his sister too much. So much so that he would have rather changed the entire world with her and xavier's power, than allow the Avengers to kill Wanda (Which is what they were going to do if QS didn't intervene.).QS has only been shown in a few panels, not really using his speed yet. The book we're talking about is post HoM called Son of Magnus. QS seems to be a bum, probably kicked out of superherodom by the other heroes who now no longer trust him. And he seems to be hella slow on the cover, so maybe they took his powers away for what he did.
Remember back in xforce when QS lost his power for a day? He almost went crazy.
If he lost his speed for good, he'd probably just kill himself.
I know I would, especially after living such a life, and then being reduced to a snail's pace.
It would drive me freakin insane.