Wolverine vs Master Chief

Started by Onikirimaru12 pages
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
MC has 2 sources of cannon... We have been over this Onikirimaru...

You opened the door to it. If you are using aspects of the video game (flipping a tank) as proof of something that you say (he has super strength), then you should likewise find proof in the game of whatever else you say. If you can say "MC has super strength, for evidence, look at the game. MC lifts tanks in the game" then you should also say "MC has speed of thought and see things in bullet time, look at the game for proof" Yet everyone knows this isnt the case. If I were you Id stay as far away from using game examples as possible.

And its impossible for 1 character to have 2 sources of cannon. Cannon is a singular continueing storyline either written, drawn, or created by the orginal author, or people that have the rights to those characters. Stuff is cannon by the fact that its part of this storyline. For example, the expanded universe of star wars isnt considered Cannon, since cannon is the movie series, not the novels. In comics, What If series isnt cannon, because its not a part of the storyline, its just a theoritcal comic. The Age Of Apocolypse isnt cannon, its an alternate timeline. If I were to pose a question regarding Wolverine and his cannon storyline, you wouldnt list that he got his hand chopped off by Cyclops. Now, if I were to ask about the AoA Wolverine, then AoA would be cannon for that character. In the Expanded Universe for star wars, if I were to pose questions regarding EU chars, then EU would be cannon for that character. Many times in these discussions people dont mind using examples from non-cannon, when they are represented realistaclly similaar to cannon, like in AoA, while other times non cannon sources are irreverent, because they display powers far too superior to what should be realisticly imagined, such as in SW EU where some characters can use the force to squish stars and force choke people from across the universe. This is one of those times, where your source depicts MC as a sort of super fast Max Payne speed of thought bad mamma jamma, when one source simply doesnt. Its like there is "Book MC" that is a super fast etc etc and "Real MC" that is a dude in a powerful suit, just like there is "Expanded Universe Jedi" that can do stuff like crush stars and then there is "Real Jedi" that have just telekinisis. And there is "Age of Apocalypse Nightcrawler" that can teleport someones head off, and "Real Nightcrawler" that simply refuse to use his powers like that.

ok whatever... I have had this debate with you... and I don't see the need to discuss this again... I shall only say... Games don't always reflect a chars full power...(any xman game shows this)

yes but in that respect.. the comic book came way before game systems could attempt to replicate their powers.. chief's story is the total opposite.. game first, then book..

Again, someone I have been over this with pops up to throw the same 2 cents in he gave last time....

Done??

Originally posted by Onikirimaru
The games? Ok, lets go down this road. Lets use the games to back up your stats for MC. MC can lift a 66 ton tank, check. MC doesnt see the world in bullet time. He doesnt have instant reactions. He can be killed be a barrage of bullets. I think you may want to keep the games out of your argument.

Wolverine has actually shown speed equal to that "speed of thought" When fighting Proffesor Xavier when he was taken over by the brood, Prof X couldnt be touched by anyone since he read everyones thoughts before they acted. Wolverine took him out by acting as fast as Wolverine thought. Once Prof X altered his defense to dodge an attack Wolverine threw, Wolverine altered his attack so fast that Prof X didnt have time to read his thought and react accordingly.

Throwin that out there, not picking a side yet.


in fact wolvi was only able to do that because he was in a half-berseker form,he wasnt thinking when fighting ,that is why p x couldnt read his mind well

Wolverine of course!!! I would give some huge explanation as to why but anyone who reads X-men probably already know's why.....

He just has a knack for beating people alot stronger then him, like Wendigo, Hulk, Lobo and ect... And for the people that say Wolverine couldn't even touch MC need to there homework, in the offical handbook of the Marvel universe 2005 Wolverine edition it states the Wolverine beat a guy named Ogan who could transend the speed of light....

So lets see here MC might be able to move the speed of sound, but Wolverine beat a guy that moved faster then the speed of light..... HHmmmmmm if I remember right the speed of sound is somewhere around 1,400 Miles per hour,and the speed of light is about 186,000 miles per second!!!! So it almost be a walk in the park for Wolverine

Wolverine beating lobo was fanvoted trash, hulk is bad writing.

Do you think an 800 lb lifter would stand a chance against a guy on superman's level, and another guy that can break an aesteriod?

Originally posted by Mako Victim
Wolverine of course!!! I would give some huge explanation as to why but anyone who reads X-men probably already know's why.....

He just has a knack for beating people alot stronger then him, like Wendigo, Hulk, Lobo and ect... And for the people that say Wolverine couldn't even touch MC need to there homework, in the offical handbook of the Marvel universe 2005 Wolverine edition it states the Wolverine beat a guy named Ogan who could transend the speed of light....

So lets see here MC might be able to move the speed of sound, but Wolverine beat a guy that moved faster then the speed of light..... HHmmmmmm if I remember right the speed of sound is somewhere around 1,400 Miles per hour,and the speed of light is about 186,000 miles per second!!!! So it almost be a walk in the park for Wolverine

Img tag damn you, its actually faster.

Go to post reply, and go to the IMG option, and paste the link.

I did....

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wolverine beating lobo was fanvoted trash, hulk is bad writing.

Do you think an 800 lb lifter would stand a chance against a guy on superman's level, and another guy that can break an aesteriod?

I'll agree that Wolverine beating Lobo was pretty lame, but Wolverine beating Hulk bad writing??? I dunno...

And yes, I do think an 800 lb lifter could beat Superman, for example alot of people think that Batman could beat Superman due to his wits and gadgets.....
It takes a hell of a lot more then just strength and cool weapons to win fights.....

like advanced armor... Unbreakable bones... Instant reactions... being highly trainned, shielding, insta kill weapons....

The day that MC has his stuff riped from inside his body and survives let me know your talking about one tough bastard.

has wolverine took on hole armies by himself?

Killed over 1000 people?

i agree that mc wins , but be able to kill 1000 people , or take out entire armies arent a factor here .If that was the case i could say that Lubu from dinatsy warriors that was said to be the man who killed over 1000 soldiers and that could take out entire armies could easily took iron man or spider man , which is not true

I know He just wanted to start a feat war.... I just countered it...

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
has wolverine took on hole armies by himself?

Killed over 1000 people?

Heh, I bet over the years Wolverines killed about 10x that much.....

And I wouldn't call beating an army of stupid aliens that can barley shoot very impresive 😆

any elite could kill wolverine

And the floodgates of hell shall open... 😗