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Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I didn't only imply that you couldn't spell it, I outright accused you of it. In fact, AGAIN, you referenced a site that hasn't spelled it the same way you do.
Fine, there are several different spellings for it. Get over it. I'll concede that.
But you keep PMing me, accusing me of being racist. And as I told you in that PM, the only race I hate in this case are those people who display their own ignorance of both the human language and simple concepts like "point of view".
posted by Soleran30
Well that was good for a chuckle call me Captain Obvious......Capt Fantastic but still the human language..........is this similat to klinganese Thanks for ultimetly telling me how to quote seriously
Posted by Whirly
Definately owned 🙂
he was very pretentious, but not very fantastic it turns out 🙁
-back to the topic
Should I forgive Germany?Forgive germany, well what about all those who sided with Germany the likes of Austria, , Italy, Japan, man to even raise this question is so far out there it have to be consider laughable.
I am a Gypsy, part of one of the main ethnic groups targeted for extermination on racial grounds by the germans during the second world war -
Am I wrong to still feel anger when a German says this can be justified
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I am a Gypsy, part of one of the main ethnic groups targeted for extermination on racial grounds by the germans during the second world war -http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5121/holcaust.htm
Am I wrong to still feel anger when a German says this can be justified?
No, please, by god don't forgive us.....I mean we are really really evil...just yesterday I burned some gypsies again...wait a second...that never happened....holy shit...I never killed anyone.....my god......so I tell you...you really don't have to forgive germany...I really don't care because I and 99% of my countries population had nothing to do with what you think you have some right to forgive us for.....oh by the way...you are an idiot...not cause you are a gypsy , I am not a racist...jsut because you are dumb as a stone ....have a nice day, sucker 🙂
The Germany today has nothing to do with what happened in the past apart froma few old fogeys who might have had something to do with the odd nasty thing. You can´t blame the inhabitants of a certain land areas for the crimes of thier past generations.
In fact Germany has learned more than any other country because of its past. I live in Germany and its sad that people here are afraid of being proud of there country, in sport events for example in fear of being branded a Nazi.
We should look at other "Nationalistic" countries where the danger of such horrors arising could emerge. Take the US for example, very proud USA over everyone sort of pride, were the biggest and best, not the Master race but nevertheless worrying.
Germany is "milked" by isreal, using the Holocaust as reason for compensation. I pay taxes in Germany along with countless other foreigners, why should I and other young people pay for something we had nothing to do with, especially as Isreal is using the money to buy weapons and kill Palastinians (whether or not that is correct is another debate)
I don´t see any US Indians claiming compensation or pointing the finger for the 60 MILLION of thier race which were killed by the invading europeans!! Or india or Africa having a crack at GB for the massacres which happened there, in fact the British regiments celebrate the battles won.
Bicnarok I understand what you meant with the American Indian thing and at first they were a conquered people that those invading Europeans let live after they caught a beat down it wasn't until years after treaties were signed that Govt had a big part to play in their downfall without them being able to protect themselves.....
Anyway so my point is the American Indians although a travesty isn't what Germany did.......
yeah but Germany today IS NOT the germany of the 40's. I have a friend from germany and he hesistates to tell anyone he's from Germany. He is sooo ashamed of its past. Especially seeing how cosmopolitan it is now.
I would hate the government and other movements of that time, but not the country. IT just happens to be the loacation of where the hate originated at the time. If you want someone to hate, hate the stupid people( if u want to call them that) that still believe in the prejudice of those years.
And to add, with the american indian thing, It is still bad. They are still treated poorly( not AS horrible as before) and with prejudice, in THIER own land. They were there first, its their land. they shouldn't be treated like some third class citizen.
In the USA Indians are given their OWN land. Some Indian tribes actually have their own nations established with their own flags and speak their own language. Most conquererd people are made to be slaves not given huge plots of land to partially govern themselves.
And still you are correct no one SHOULD be treated like some thrid class citizen.
Also thats a shame Germans cannot take pride in their country. The Holocaust certainly wasn't their only history or their entire history by a long shot.
Originally posted by soleran30
In the USA Indians are given their OWN land. Some Indian tribes actually have their own nations established with their own flags and speak their own language. Most conquererd people are made to be slaves not given huge plots of land to partially govern themselves.
Their OWN land?! The whole frickin' continent was theirs!
Israel, anyone?
Or, how about 40 acres and a mule?
And, I hope you're not saying the Native Americans were well compensated for their troubles!
Capt as difficult as this sounds they went to war with those European settlers and chose to stay in the USA there is Canada and Mexico.....
Did Caesar let crushed enemies live with him.....as a slave
Did Egypt let crushed enemies live with them.......as a slave
How about Ghengis Khan and the mongols........nope killed them all
What did American Indians do with a defeated captured tribe? I will tell you they sure as hell didn't say stay where you are and live off what you can.....guess what the defeated tribe......you guessed it SLAVE or Killed
So what exactly was your point about American Indians now?
Originally posted by soleran30
Capt as difficult as this sounds they went to war with those European settlers and chose to stay in the USA there is Canada and Mexico.....Did Caesar let crushed enemies live with him.....as a slave
Did Egypt let crushed enemies live with them.......as a slave
How about Ghengis Khan and the mongols........nope killed them all
What did American Indians do with a defeated captured tribe? I will tell you they sure as hell didn't say stay where you are and live off what you can.....guess what the defeated tribe......you guessed it SLAVE or KilledSo what exactly was your point about American Indians now?
(Oh, wait, yes, it is...)
Originally posted by soleran30...this should be interesting...
Capt as difficult as this sounds they went to war with those European settlers and chose to stay in the USA there is Canada and Mexico.....Did Caesar let crushed enemies live with him.....as a slave
Did Egypt let crushed enemies live with them.......as a slave
How about Ghengis Khan and the mongols........nope killed them all
What did American Indians do with a defeated captured tribe? I will tell you they sure as hell didn't say stay where you are and live off what you can.....guess what the defeated tribe......you guessed it SLAVE or KilledSo what exactly was your point about American Indians now?