Did anything in the Bible realy happen.Is any of it real?

Originally posted by mr.smiley
Adam and Eve,Noahs Arc,Sodom and Gaumura,all of the new testiment.Did any of this realy ever happen?
I can't realy find any proof for any of it.

What is real?

We, today, think that real is fact, and fact is truth. This is not how the bible should be read, in my opinion. Fact is fact, and truth is real, but truth is not fact, because fact is not real. Fact needs an interpretation, where as, truth is self-evident. Real can not be understood by anyone but a Buddha; truth points the way. Facts are temporal and subject to interpretation. Therefore, the bible is a book of trues. The problem is, the bible is a construction of many books, and not all the trues agree with each other. So, there is pluralism in the bible that speaks of another truth, human diversity. Try not to put the pieces together, it only leads to suffering. If you take each story and read it carefully, you will see a glimpse of humanity. The bible is a book about humans, not gods, at least, that’s my opinion.

Real can not be understood by anyone but a Buddha

Pain is real, an emotion and feeling due to a happening but still real.

I cut my hand but is it real or not, well it hurts and it bleeds and I can see the cut, so tell me what is not real, truth and fact here.

Cuting my hand is the fact/truth, that it hurt is the truth/fact, that it bleeds is a fact/truth that I can see the cut is the truth/fact.... the pain felt was real, the blood shed was real, the vision of it was real the happening of events was real

Originally posted by finti
what?

Pain is real, an emotion and feeling due to a happening but still real.

I cut my hand but is it real or not, well it hurts and it bleeds and I can see the cut, so tell me what is not real, truth and fact here.

Cuting my hand is the fact/truth, that it hurt is the truth/fact, that it bleeds is a fact/truth that I can see the cut is the truth/fact.... the pain felt was real, the blood shed was real, the vision of it was real the happening of events was real

The cut on your hand has nothing to do with how the bible was written. Please go back and read my post again, and keep in mind that I'm talking about how a person should read the bible, or any other holy book of that time period.

The pain you feel is just a nerve impulse, it is so “not real” that you could turn the pain off at will, and people do it all the time.

The cut on your hand has nothing to do with how the bible was written. Please go back and read my post again, and keep in mind that I'm talking about how a person should read the bible, or any other holy book of that time period.

The pain you feel is just a nerve impulse, it is so “not real” that you could turn the pain off at will, and people do it all the time

Originally posted by finti
...[B]Real can not be understood by anyone but a Buddha ...[/B]

So you have a problem with this statement. Do you know what a Buddha is?

yes I know what a buddah is/are or what they try to be...

Originally posted by finti
yes I know what a buddah is/are or what they try to be...

Sorry, that's not what I'm talking about. It's kind of Buddhist inside joke. A Buddha is an enlightened person, we are all enlightened, just most people are unaware of this enlightenment. So I was saying that we can all understand what is real if we just realize it.

A Buddha is an enlightened person, we are all enlightened

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those who are blinded to the light of christ dont know the truth but those of us who know christ know that the things in the bible did happen and we don't question them

those who are blinded to the light of christ dont know the truth but those of us who know christ know that the things in the bible did happen and we don't question them

Yeah...and it causes lots of problems for other people....If you think about it, it's the ones who believe in the "One God" who persecute others....Funny how people who believe in reincarnation don't do that...Or other beliefs or non beliefs....only the One God believers...ie Christians, Muslim.

God has a language? And His word can be translated to any language and go through countless tweaks and revisions and remain the unfailing Truth?

Language limits thought. If God is as he is supposed to be in Christain thought, the idea that any of it can be "the true word of God" in written language, and told through fallible human beings, is a bit preposterous, especially considering translational problems throughout history.

Show me a universe and I'll tell you there's a God. But a book can't get me to the same conclusion. So I suppose, in that sense, none of it is "true" though a few people (like Pilate and Paul, mentioned earlier) definitely existed.

Side bar, though. I feel a touch of guilt always bashing my former religion here...there's nothing wrong with a lot of Jesus' message. "Love one another." Hell, it doesn't get much more simple and profound. The precepts upon which the religion is based, suspect at best, horribly flawed at worst. But at least a decent amount of their teachings still do more good than harm.

Originally posted by gp christ loves
and we don't question them

That's what is so scary. I have no problem with anyone of any faith (yourself included). But I think we should all question, if only to reaffirm what we believe.

That's what is so scary. I have no problem with anyone of any faith (yourself included). But I think we should all question, if only to reaffirm what we believe.

Some of the events described did happen; archaeological evidence in the form of physical evidence or supporting documents from other sources can be found for some of the battles, the political struggles, and the building and collapse of cities.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
(Side bar, though. I feel a touch of guilt always bashing my former religion here...there's nothing wrong with a lot of Jesus' message. "Love one another." .

I feel the same way....and it's great that you looked into your religion...Just as I did....though many will never never do that...Maybe tooo scared on what they'll find out, or that it's Satan putting those doubts or thoughts into their heads to do the searching...Also many churches tell you not to read books outside the Christian book stores.

Most of Jesus' teaching can be attributed to Plato too!

The bible is nothing more than a book of odious lies. What stopped Jesus Christ from turning every stone into bread to wipe out hunger? I don't remember hearing how Moses reacted when the angel of death slaughtered the innocent first born sons! And what, was God more demonstrative back when he parted the sea?

Hmmm, Adam and Eve or the theory of evolution? I know which one I find more convincing. The divine hand theory of creation, or the big bang?

We live in an age of scientific enlightenment, anyone who still subscribes to these metaphysical beliefs is ignorant and / or gullible.

theoretically a diety could have caused the big bang. seeing as how if it had been even slightly different the universe never would have formed, it isnt hard to beleive someone greater was on our side.