Batman - "super"hero?

I don't know if this thread's ever been done, but it's certainly be said often enough how Batman has no powers. Technically, then, can he really be called a "super" hero? Even with his capacity to be prepared, we still acknowledge that this ability falls within human limits. So what makes him "super?" I suspect largely it's because he wears a superhero-type costume and he hangs out with the uberfolks.
Put another way, if any of us harnessed enough resources, trained our minds and our bodies well and wore our undies on the outside, we could be called superheroes. I mean, that is a major source of Bats appeal: that he is human and not super.

Superheroes depend on their powers to win victories. They lack intellegence and endurance. Batman has proven many times that supers mean nothing when you have a powerful mind. Many comic book fans think that superpowers=greatness. And thats rather weak. Physically you can do damage with your powers. But lose the powers and what are you left with? Nothing but your fists and feet to fight. Mind always wins over muscle.

ya exactly hes like the punisher now powers just really smart and nows alot of kungfu and bat man dosent fight super villians realli

Originally posted by WindDancer
Superheroes depend on their powers to win victories. They lack intellegence and endurance. Batman has proven many times that supers mean nothing when you have a powerful mind. Many comic book fans think that superpowers=greatness. And thats rather weak. Physically you can do damage with your powers. But lose the powers and what are you left with? Nothing but your fists and feet to fight. Mind always wins over muscle.

exactly why i like batman....exactly...he doesnt have superpowers n thus hes more believable..he doesnt have superpowers, but a strong mind, skillz that you put ur body and mind to the absolute limit, and yes, some badass gadgets supplied by Wayne Enterprises 😄 he wasnt just bitten by a spider and got superpowers like spideysense, webshooters, ect. or happen to be an alien from planet krypton that has super powers, or blessed by som1 to have powers....no none of that, he had to work to get all of his "powers" i guess u would call them

Well..Spidey made his web-shooters himself, but except for that I agree with you braz...and WD.....

But I think Batman has Superpowers...he is SUPER-COOL 🪩

i've always thought of Batman as a superhero by association, simply because he hangs around with so many of 'em. and is considered by most to be a 'superhero' despite the lack of powers.

wsell in his world he surely is considered a superheroe.....at least in the beginning of his career....now probably more and more people know that he is basically human....but he is probably still considered as a Superheroe (by those that actually consider him a hero....and those that donÜt think he's a myth...and...)

he's super rich and super smart...so technically he's a super hero.

His intellect and strength of will could be considered superhuman.

By the point of view of the narrow minded who don't think Batman qualifies as a superhero, by their definition the following aren't superheroes either:

Iron Man
Green Lantern
Hawkman
Captain America
Steel
Blue Beetle

How come Batman is shunned for being human, but not these guys?

Originally posted by Mindship
I don't know if this thread's ever been done, but it's certainly be said often enough how Batman has no powers. Technically, then, can he really be called a "super" hero? Even with his capacity to be prepared, we still acknowledge that this ability falls within human limits. So what makes him "super?" I suspect largely it's because he wears a superhero-type costume and he hangs out with the uberfolks.
Put another way, if any of us harnessed enough resources, trained our minds and our bodies well and wore our undies on the outside, we could be called superheroes. I mean, that is a major source of Bats appeal: that he is human and not super.

I know, I think he should just be called a hero, because there is no "super" in him.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
By the point of view of the narrow minded who don't think Batman qualifies as a superhero, by their definition the following aren't superheroes either:

Iron Man
Green Lantern
Hawkman
Captain America
Steel
Blue Beetle

How come Batman is shunned for being human, but not these guys?

Because they indeed have something super on them.,...I mean yeds Batman has Gadgets too that don't exist but there are differences you can't really explain you have to feel them.....like a full exo-skelettong that couldn't puts you at hundred times the power of most huans is different as somreone in a kevlar cape jumping from rooftops and relyon his own wits....

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
By the point of view of the narrow minded who don't think Batman qualifies as a superhero, by their definition the following aren't superheroes either:

Iron Man
Green Lantern
Hawkman
Captain America
Steel
Blue Beetle

How come Batman is shunned for being human, but not these guys?

lmao dude...iron man has like a suit that allows him to have like 80 or 90+ ton strength right??? the hulkbuster....lol thats pretty super if ya ask me...and like radiation laser beams on his palms...yea hes a superhero....and green lantern has a ring that makes force fields n energy blasts....hmm yea i dont know of ne regular humans that can do that....and captain america, true yes, isnt a superhero either IMO....and as for blue beetle, steel and hawkman i have no clue who they are 😕

batmans uber awsome. thats why hes a "super" hero. 😎

Originally posted by braz
lmao dude...iron man has like a suit that allows him to have like 80 or 90+ ton strength right??? the hulkbuster....lol thats pretty super if ya ask me...and like radiation laser beams on his palms...yea hes a superhero....and green lantern has a ring that makes force fields n energy blasts....hmm yea i dont know of ne regular humans that can do that....and captain america, true yes, isnt a superhero either IMO....and as for blue beetle, steel and hawkman i have no clue who they are 😕

really they should change his name or his atatus cause they have him doing some superhuman things.

I think if you don't have superpowers, you're not a superhero. Batman, IMO, is just a freak in a Halloween costume. His power is he's rich. I rather enjoy the fantasy of a superhero, a boy being bitten by a radioactive spider, a man getting exposed to a gamma ray.

The Punisher, on the other hand, is AOK in my book because he doesn't pretend to be a superhero. Just hero.

I think he is. I think its stupid to say that he isn't. What defines a superhero?

1. An incident in their life that has changed them into what they are. (IE radioactive spider bite, gamma ray exposure,

2. Abandonment usually (IE Uncle Ben's death, Krypton destroyed, Joe Chill killing Thomas and Martha Wayne)

3. Increased ability to (reflexes, durability, BATMAN'S INTELLIGENCE)

4. The lust for justice (Batman doesn't have that?)

5. More will power than everyone else in the world (you don't think Batman has more will power than say, mostly all of the superheroes out there?)

6. Costume (covered)

7. Fighting evil villains (covered)

Batman's super POWERS, albeit not derived from some freak accident, are his will power, his physical strength (I'm sure he can beat Captain America and he's considered a superhero) and training, his motivation, and his intelligence - which he proves many many times, is definitely up very very high on the scale out of both Marvel and D.C., if not the overall smartest (with still untapped potential).

I think its definitive to call him a superhero.

Batman is a superhero.
Anybody who doesn't know that is dumb.

At the same time, I don't like how he does superhuman feats and yet he is still classified as peakhuman.

They should change that part of his bio.

IT sickens me to ahve that up there.
He's only top level human like an olympic weight lifter or a master martial-artist who benches twice his bodyweight and can break through stacks of bricks, but "since he is batman", he can trip up flash, trade punches with darksied, thrash superman with no kryptonite, go toe to toe with wonderwoman, and do shit like kick down big thickass trees with one kick, or kick the shit outta hulk, but he's still just top level human(peakhuman).

No, that shit won't fly, man, they need to get their ass back on their job and change that part of his bio to read superhuman or at least low level superhuman.

Cause the shit he does is even way above inhanced human let alone peakhuman, so he should be classified as superhuman.

For the creators and writers to do otherwise is just stupid.

Who agrees with me?

Hell, if they are gonna do that they should just have alot of other people doing shit they can't possibly really do, like have spiderman lift 1 billiob tons with one hand, cuse having batman( a peakhuman) do shit like like shatter a thick tree with one kick or manhandle superman or get punched by darkseid and get back up is just as bad and just as much a showcase to bad(pot induced) writting skills as any.

he manhandled superman? wtf? without kryptonite? thats impossible...

when did this happen...

and yes I completly agree with you, basically batman should be able to do about as much as he does in Batman Begins, that was a believable batman