Is and Ought

of course, but do not claim my ways deceptive. That is not very christian like...

the deception that is...

Originally posted by AOR
I'm not justifying football. But in finding the exsistance of God you get a paper cut, that does not make finding the exsistance of God "immoral" because you have the likely hood of cutting yourself. The same goes with reading or writing. The chance that you may drop the book on your toe, or the ink of the pen could squirt out the other end entering your eye, and being absorbed into your body where your blood cells begin to duplicate it where your then get ink poisening and die. Football is played with pads to protect the players. They don't intentially get hurt, they get hurt by accidents. That is why the slots for each position are so definly fit. Because if you are just a hair of a detail off, than you will get hurt.

Smoking on the other hand has no to it. It is a harm to your body because where in football you gain positive attributes from your training that could promote longer life, that does not apply to smoking. Smoking is a risk that has no benfits, and only repercutions. So why smoke if it doesn't do you any good?

I can see what you're getting at though, but I don't buy it. It's a statistical FACT that football players are less likely to live long, healthy lives. Just the fact that they work their muscles to the point where it actually becomes unhealthy (read this if you get a chance) is reason alone to say that they know they are putting themselves in harm's way.

They are not as innocent as you might think.

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
I always seem to get confused when talking about Christian ethics. They always seem to put a twist on things…

For the record, I'm agnostic.

I have found people of other religions to do the exact same thing.

What if you eat at Mcdonalds every day? That can be considered unhealthy.

*just the first part of that, up until Team Basketball Lives!

Originally posted by Echuu
What if you eat at Mcdonalds every day? That can be considered unhealthy.

In excess, that can be considered gluttony

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
In excess, that can be considered gluttony

Well there ya go. I think in the cases we are discussing they definitely fall into grey areas. Smoking though, is right on the verge of stepping into the black.

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
I can see what you're getting at though, but I don't buy it. It's a statistical FACT that football players are less likely to live long, healthy lives. Just the fact that they work their muscles to the point where it actually becomes unhealthy (read this if you get a chance) is reason alone to say that they know they are putting themselves in harm's way.

They are not as innocent as you might think.

Just like statistics show that people who smoke are less likely to live long and get cancer. But granted, the sin of football no longer stems to the collision sport, but now to increasing the body to a unhelthy size. If football was left as it ought to be, then there would be no problem with it...