The Ultimates versus their MU Counterparts

Originally posted by JWangSDC
Most of these posts are somewhat off...

Ult Thing=616 thing...what on earth has made aynone else think different? 616 is generally stronger because it is less realistic, but since Ult thing=616 thing Ult thing SEEMS stronger because of who he is compared to. Does that not make sense?

What makes 616 cyke stronger than Ult cyke? They're more or less the same person.

And ult Iceman stronger than 616 Iceman? uhm....I really don't think so.

Ult Collosus stronger than 616 collosus? .....Ult=616...EQUALS...

Mate i disagree about Ultimate Colossus. 🙂

Ultimate hulk beats savage hulk?

haha well, the biggest debatable ones would be Colossus and Thing. But I really feel that they EQUAL each other. I mean both Thing and Colossus are like 95 Ton range in both worlds... In 616 that means they're both eclipsed by every 100+ ton person which tehre are many of...but in the ultimate universe they're pretty much the strongest.

Originally posted by yahman
Mate i disagree about Ultimate Colossus. 🙂

Originally posted by Xplosive
What about Ultimate Apocalypse?

he is so evil than even evil fear him

Originally posted by JWangSDC
haha well, the biggest debatable ones would be Colossus and Thing. But I really feel that they EQUAL each other. I mean both Thing and Colossus are like 95 Ton range in both worlds... In 616 that means they're both eclipsed by every 100+ ton person which tehre are many of...but in the ultimate universe they're pretty much the strongest.

How are people on here saying that Ultimate hulk is only class 50???????? i mean have yall read his fights and not to mention he bent and broke adamantium and i believe that takes alot more then class 50 stregth.

Ultimate thing= or < less than Earht 616 Thing both 6/7 in strength
Ultimate Colossus < Earth 616 Colossus both 6/7 and where earth 616 can lift 100tons
earth 616 hulk>>> Ultimate Hulk
earth 616 juggernaut >>>>>ultimate juggernaut
earth 616 sinister >>>>>ultimate sinister
earth 616 Thor no contest >> ultimate thor
earth 616 blackbolt owns ultimate black bolt

Please leave. Do not tell me I'm wrong when you do not know what you are talking about.

Thing knocks out A HULK in one punch...we do not know which hulk it is, so it doesn't matter. Anyway check any guide, THing doesn't break the 100 ton barrier...he's the same strength as he is in 616/

Collossus threw down a Thor that could lift like 20 tons. WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW. Ultimate colossus would get his ass handed to him by 616 thor just like 616 Collosus would. Where at all does it show ult collosus being greater than 616? It never does...they are EQUAL...everyone else is just weaker.

They are not more than their coutnerparts. They are the same as their counterparts in a world that is generally weaker.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Wrong.
Thing was able to beat down Hulk.
Colossuss throwed down with Thor and beat him, tough when Thor fought UK supersoldiers and the Ultimates showed his own really good.
Anyway they are more than their counterparts.

This is just my opinion at least.

?=Not actually too sure

The ones I italicized are the ones I flipped.

Genis ? Ult. Mahr Vehl
Iron Man ? Ult. Iron Man
Thor > Ult. Thor
Ult. Loki ? Loki
Ult. Apocalypse ? Apocalypse
Sinister = Ult. Sinister
Ult. Cap > Captain America
Scarlet Witch > Ult. Scarlet Witch
Ult. Quicksilver < Quicksilver
Ult. Thing > Thing
Savage Hulk > Ult. Hulk > Gray Hulk
Human Torch = Ult. Human Torch
Invisible Woman > Ult. Invisible Woman
Mr. Fantastic = Ult. Mr. Fantastic
Ult. Doctor Doom > Dr. Doom
Ult. Black Bolt > Black Bolt
Annihilus ? Ult. Nihil
Ult. Wolverine > Wolverine (same but Ult. Wolvie has a better healing factor)
Ult. Colossus > Colossus
Ult. Gambit > Gambit
Ult. Rogue > Rogue
Jean Grey > Ult. Jean Grey
Cyclops = Ult. Cyclops
Ult. Iceman < Iceman
Xavier = Ult. Xavier
Ult. Phoenix Force < Phoenix Force
Magneto = Ult. Magneto
Nightcrawler = Ult. Nightcrawler
Ult. Beast > Beast (I dunno, I think Ultimate Beast could actually be better. That's just me though)
Ult. Storm (when she gets pissed she's ****in scary!) > Storm
Classic Juggernaut > Ult. Juggernaut > Current Juggernaut
Ult. Sabretooth > Sabretooth
Ult. Shadowcat = Shadowcat
Ult. Blob > The Blob
Longshot < Ult. Longshot

Originally posted by JWangSDC
Please leave. Do not tell me I'm wrong when you do not know what you are talking about.

Thing knocks out A HULK in one punch...we do not know which hulk it is, so it doesn't matter. Anyway check any guide, THing doesn't break the 100 ton barrier...he's the same strength as he is in 616/

Collossus threw down a Thor that could lift like 20 tons. WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW. Ultimate colossus would get his ass handed to him by 616 thor just like 616 Collosus would. Where at all does it show ult collosus being greater than 616? It never does...they are EQUAL...everyone else is just weaker.

They are not more than their coutnerparts. They are the same as their counterparts in a world that is generally weaker.

You forgot Iron Man. Colossus also thrashed Iron Man.

I would definitely say Ultimate Colossus is far stronger. I'll post some more later.

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Two-parter

Part 1

Part dos

Another two-parter.

Part uno.

Part two.

Utlimate Colossus is BY FAR stronger than 616 Colossus.

616 was never able to overpower Magneto. And look who just did it.

Ultimate Colossus.

oh my gracious..... the whole Ultimate earth characters are way weaker than 616-verse characters. In terms of strength, Ultimate Hulk's the benchmark at 17 tons. There are freaking possibility that he loses to 616 Spidey a 15 tonner and much faster. Ultimate Colossus is impressive, but he will be creamed in 616-verse.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Sinister = Ult. Sinister

As for Ult. Colossus. I recall a Russian submarine.

Originally posted by JWangSDC
haha well, the biggest debatable ones would be Colossus and Thing. But I really feel that they EQUAL each other. I mean both Thing and Colossus are like 95 Ton range in both worlds... In 616 that means they're both eclipsed by every 100+ ton person which tehre are many of...but in the ultimate universe they're pretty much the strongest.

It don't think 616 Colossus could accomplish the feats, his Ultimate alter ego has.

E.G.
Submarine (Weighing several thousand tons)
Stopping a Train (Weighing several thousand tons)
Ferris Wheel (Weighing several 100 tons)
Magneto (This guy has lifted Islands with his Magnetic powers)
Thor; This guy beat two Super Soldiers (at least Level 5) and two Iron people (at least Level 6)
Iron man (He lifted one of those city block Space ships, and pushed a nuclear sub)
Throwing the Sentinel (I saw House of M Colossus really struggling with a Sentinel)

To accomplish these feats one would have to be at least a Low Level 7 character, 616 colossus is listed as a Level 6. 🙂

Originally posted by JWangSDC
Please leave. Do not tell me I'm wrong when you do not know what you are talking about.

Thing knocks out A HULK in one punch...we do not know which hulk it is, so it doesn't matter. Anyway check any guide, THing doesn't break the 100 ton barrier...he's the same strength as he is in 616/

Collossus threw down a Thor that could lift like 20 tons. WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW. Ultimate colossus would get his ass handed to him by 616 thor just like 616 Collosus would. Where at all does it show ult collosus being greater than 616? It never does...they are EQUAL...everyone else is just weaker.

They are not more than their coutnerparts. They are the same as their counterparts in a world that is generally weaker.

Originally posted by yahman
It don't think 616 Colossus could accomplish the feats, his Ultimate alter ego has.

E.G.
Submarine (Weighing several thousand tons)
Stopping a Train (Weighing several thousand tons)
Ferris Wheel (Weighing several 100 tons)
Magneto (This guy has lifted Islands with his Magnetic powers)
Thor; This guy beat two Super Soldiers (at least Level 5) and two Iron people (at least Level 6)
Iron man (He lifted one of those city block Space ships, and pushed a nuclear sub)
Throwing the Sentinel (I saw House of M Colossus really struggling with a Sentinel)

To accomplish these feats one would have to be at least a Low Level 7 character, 616 colossus is listed as a Level 6. 🙂

🤨 A ferris wheel that weighed several hundred tons? WTF was it made out of? 😕