The Fury VS the JLA

Originally posted by Etrigan
OMACs can replicate any other being's powers and use them against the being. They can analyse the opponent and bring up archives on them to target their weaknesses, as well as being able to revert humans who transform into superpowered beings (i.e. Marvel) back into their human form. I think an OMAC replicated Shazam's lightning once. (EDIT: Just checked Wiki and apparently yeah, this did happen.)

A few OMACs could bring down the Fury, considering that Fury couldn't destroy them all before it got analysed.

I know what omacs can do, I asked how they could beat him, Fury survived universal destruction and couldn't be put down by MJJ. Fury would evolve and rule DCU. 🙄

How DID the Fury eventually get defeated? Because if five or ten OMACs were replicating Fury's power against it, then it would be utterly defeated.

Originally posted by Etrigan
How DID the Fury eventually get defeated? Because if five or ten OMACs were replicating Fury's power against it, then it would be utterly defeated.

It was beaten after it killed MJJ, it was weakened then though.

Well it would be weakened from having fought the JLA, don't you think? So the OMACs could take it.

Originally posted by Etrigan
Well it would be weakened from having fought the JLA, don't you think? So the OMACs could take it.

You're comparing MJJ to the JLA?

Nope. But the JLA and a good deal more of the DCU would be combining to attack the Fury with everything they've got. So I reckon that would be enough to even slightly put the Fury off its game, right?

I'm not sure the JLA can dish out the amount of punishment that Jaspers delivered to the Fury. Jaspers had warped the Fury with his powers numerous times to the point where Fury figured out the only way to defeat Jaspers was to teleport him extradimensionally to the realm of "Unspace" where he had no reality to warp. The problem with this method is that when the Fury teleports between dimensions it is severely damaged and needs to reform itself. When the Fury was defeated it had just traveled to Unspace and back, meaning it had travelled extradimensionally twice (to unspace, killing Jaspers, and then back to the Earth 616 dimension from Unspace) and was severely weakened. If The Flash were to try to bumrush the Fury into the Speedforce Dimension and then bring him back to the Earth Dimension he might be able to weaken it enough for the rest of the JLA to take it out.

That is, however, assuming that the JLA would know of this weakness, which isn't common knowledge, and also assuming that the JLA would attempt extradimensional battlefield removal. If they take the direct approach they're pretty much dead.

Maybe, although MJJ could solo pretty much the DCU barring cosmics/multiversal reality warpers or anyone in that vine. So it's hard to say, also most of the DCU wouldn't be attacking him at the same time.

Fury has only ever been harmed/killed on two occasions.

The first was by Zeitgeist a phaser unparalleled by ANY phaser in comicdom. Most phasers work by 'forcing' their atoms to slip in between the opposing objects atoms.

Zeitgeist isn't like that.

His whole existence is a mystery, he lives outside of time, space, reality and matter. Heck, his tangible form is still technically 'phased'. He tore through Fury like a hot knife through butter ; the poor bastard didn't know what him.

The second time was after the fury had killed Jasper, it had to reformat itself several times, warp reality AND jump between realities. This was an extremely draining process and weakneed the Fury to such a level that Captain Uk could then tear him apart.

The JLA can neither step outside of existence enough to Harm fury, nor can they weakne it without the aid of Bat-PIS.

The whole storyline and so much existence-jumping tends to give those who have not read it recently a mild headache.

So Grey Fox. You reckon that the JLA could not harm Fury at all without Bat-PIS due to their lack of existence-hopping/warping ability? Yet OMACs could? I'm not sure who you're supporting.

Umm Cyborgs shouldn't really hold up very well against the crrent League becasue of Firestorm. I mean whats the Fury going to do when it has been turned into a pack of Durex.

Change back.

Mad Jim Jaspers is a Universe Level Reality Warper and used that method of attack on the Fury already to no avail.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Change back.

Mad Jim Jaspers is a Universe Level Reality Warper and used that method of attack on the Fury already to no avail.

How does a pack of Durex spontaneously turn into an unstoppable killing Robot, exactly ?

The same way The Fury was able to morph itself back to it's base form after Mad Jim Jaspers reality warped it into various objects in their battle.

No offense, but I'm assuming based on your responses that you've never read that Captain Britain Arc which introduced Mad Jim Jaspers and The Fury. I'll get the scans if it will help. I'm pretty sure it's in Mad Jim Jaspers Respect Thread if not The Fury's.

Actually, Jaspers and Fury have the same respect thread. 😛

The JLA is screwed if it's classic Fury at his best. The dimension hopping didn't hurt him after the first time. And as previously said, Jaspers threw everything he had at Fury, and he couldn't put him down.

Here you go:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t441767.html

^That's a link to the respect thread which contains scans of the battle between The Fury and Mad Jim Jaspers. The Fury had evolved beyond the point where altering it's being would cause it harm:

Originally posted by illadelph12
The same way The Fury was able to morph itself back to it's base form after Mad Jim Jaspers reality warped it into various objects in their battle.

No offense, but I'm assuming based on your responses that you've never read that Captain Britain Arc which introduced Mad Jim Jaspers and The Fury. I'll get the scans if it will help. I'm pretty sure it's in Mad Jim Jaspers Respect Thread if not The Fury's.

Why would i take that offensively ?

No i haven't. Its on my to read list.

Its doesn't really mention it, but Jim Jaspers reality warping powers are what allows the fury to come back to life, as he was the one who created the Fury in the first place.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Why would i take that offensively ?

No i haven't. Its on my to read list.

Its doesn't really mention it, but Jim Jaspers reality warping powers are what allows the fury to come back to life, as he was the one who created the Fury in the first place.

Most KMCers don't take well to disagreements and I'm the non-offensive type when I debate so I just tend to be polite.

As for the comment regarding The Fury, yes, he was created by Mad Jim Jaspers, but his abilities and existence are independent of Jaspers and not dependent of him. The Fury was created by the Mad Jim Jaspers of Earth 238 who was killed when that universe was nullified to eliminate the threat of Jaspers powers spilling over and warping the greater omniverse. The Fury survived the nullification of the universe and came to the Earth 616 dimension when it could sense across dimensions that Captain Britain of Earth 616 had been resurrected by Merlyn. The Jaspers that The Fury fought in those scans is the Earth 616 version, the mainstream Marvel Universe version that is actually exponentially more powerful than the Earth 238 Jaspers.

The Fury would destroy the JLA. Maybe the whole DC universe.

Well not the entirety of the DC Universe, not if it has to face full power Spectre.