Wolverine, Sabretooth, and Omega Red versus Spiderman, Venom and Lizard

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Thought Battlehammer had taken his leave of here. Ah well, welcome back.

With that said, I think team 2 can take this. Everyone here has a healing factor, so while some are more powerful than others, that issue isn't much of a deal-breaker. All of Team 2's healing factors can keep them stable against Red's spores for an extended period of time.

Venom could theoretically take out all of Team 1 himself, if he fought to the very best of his ability. Hell, it's even speculative if Red's death spores will affect the alien physiology of Venom.

Sigh.

No. I don't have any hatred towards Wolverine nor Sabretooth. I actually rather like Wolverine, Sabretooth I could take or leave (just don't really care about him all that much). I will, however, cleary state that, yes, I do like Spider-Man more. But I leave my preferences at the door when it comes to the debates. I just don't jump on the bandwagon of Wolverine being able to defeat anyone short of the Juggernaut himself.

I really don't think anyone drops from the spore, at least not for quite some time. Anyway, I think Venom makes this fight. Spidey and Lizard handle Wolvie and Sabes, eventually defeating them. And Venom should be able to take Red.

I see no reason Spidey wouldn't drop to the death-spores pretty quickly.

An argument can clearly be made for Venom's symbiont protecting him and the Lizard's healing factor.

Spidey and Lizard would lose, theres not much they can do thats gonna hurt them. Oh yeah off topic Metal, something you'll like to hear, in an recent Ultimate X-Men comic, Wolverine cuts out Collosus's heart, and.....he's still standing, then he rips off Wolverine's leg. Collosus is great man, but they never use him properly in the 616 universe, like they did in the past. I also dont like how they made him gay in the ultimate universe...( nothing against lesbians ), but I just asked myself why they change him? Oh well

Originally posted by EvilTyrant
Spidey and Lizard would lose, theres not much they can do thats gonna hurt them. Oh yeah off topic Metal, something you'll like to hear, in an recent Ultimate X-Men comic, Wolverine cuts out Collosus's heart, and.....he's still standing, then he rips off Wolverine's leg. Collosus is great man, but they never use him properly in the 616 universe, like they did in the past. I also dont like how they made him gay in the ultimate universe...( nothing against lesbians ), but I just asked myself why they change him? Oh well

What does Ult. X-Men have to do with this? Ult. Wolverine's been shown to be unable to cut Ult. Colossus anyway. And what's wrong with him being gay? He's not the same character as 616, why can't people wrap their brains around that?

How would Spidey and Lizard lose to Wolvie and Sabes? Webbing for the win, dude.

wth, just telling you, cause I'd thought you'd like to know, figured you was a fan of Collosus. Ult. universe has nothing to do with the fight, just telling you what happened. Also yes, I can rap my brain around the Ultimate Universe, its an alternate reality, sh!ts different over there. Collosus was one of my favorite X-Men, I just don't like the way he's being handled in both realities. So if you find something to get angry about in that response I give up.

Originally posted by EvilTyrant
wth, just telling you, cause I'd thought you'd like to know, figured you was a fan of Collosus. Ult. universe has nothing to do with the fight, just telling you what happened. Also yes, I can rap my brain around the Ultimate Universe, its an alternate reality, sh!ts different over there. Collosus was one of my favorite X-Men, I just don't like the way he's being handled in both realities. So if you find something to get angry about in that response I give up.

I'm sorry. I didn't to come off like that. I've been having a somewhat stressful weak, shouldn't have taken it out on you. Seriously, my bad. 🙂

np

Originally posted by Badabing
Hey! Good to see you. 😱

Thanks it is good to see you as well

Originally posted by Soljer
Team one, as everyone said.

Also, hearty "Welcome Back" to battlehammer.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Thought Battlehammer had taken his leave of here. Ah well, welcome back.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
With that said, I think team 2 can take this. Everyone here has a healing factor, so while some are more powerful than others, that issue isn't much of a deal-breaker. All of Team 2's healing factors can keep them stable against Red's spores for an extended period of time.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Venom could theoretically take out all of Team 1 himself, if he fought to the very best of his ability.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hell, it's even speculative if Red's death spores will affect the alien physiology of Venom.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Thanks I think lol

That’s wrong actually. Beast who has at least spidermans equal in healing factor if not superior was dropped within seconds from the death spores and they were not even direct right at him.

I disagree. For one he really has no means to defeat omega red. Red spores could be argue alone able to KO venom and then add in life drain and venom pretty screwed. Also venom is still effected by cis meaning he will revert to his mindless brawling tactic which allows individuals inferior to him physically to repeatedly defeat him.

They don’t need too, they only need to effect the user of the suit who is very much human.

It was a sincere "welcome back". 😛

But back to debating. Eh, I guess it's hard to tell on the healing factor side, as Spidey's has been pretty inconsistent over the years. Sometimes it's really effective, other times seems like he doesn't have one. 😬 Even still, he should be able to withstand it for a period of time and not go down immediately. If Cap can withstand an obviously lethal dose of the virus Red Skull created, I don't see why Spidey, with even greater superhuman stats, shouldn't be able to withstand Red's spores for a time.

Does Red not need to breathe? Venom could attack him immediately and suffocate him from the get-go.

Also, not sure how the spores are affecting the person inside the symbiote when, well, there's a symbiote encasing the person. And it's highly debatable as to whether or not Red's spores will even affect the symbiote. If I remember correctly, didn't Venom laughably expel lethal amounts of poison/toxin from his body when an opponent affected him?

I honestly dont think the phermones can take out anyone wearing a symbiote. I also have no doubts that Spidey would fall to it.

Although venom may resist the permones as well as lizard, i highly doubt they can withstand the death factor.

^ Why?

Cause it drains the life force. The symbiote is a living organism as well as the person wearing it. Red putting the death factor on it would be a 2 for 1 deal.

Wolverine, Sabretooth and Omega Red win.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Cause it drains the life force. The symbiote is a living organism as well as the person wearing it. Red putting the death factor on it would be a 2 for 1 deal.