A Super Star Destroyer or a Borg Cube?

Okay, well, I wanted to match the SSD up against something, but I couldn't think of anything that wasn't insanely more powerful than the SSD, or much much weaker, so I thought a Borg Cube would be a good match up.

There's the Super-class Star Destroyer. For refference, the tower at the rear of the ship is supposed to be the same size as that of a standard Imperial-class Star Destroyer, I believe a SSD is 11 times larger than a standard Imperial SD, and comes to a whopping size of (I believe) just under 13 kilometers. (12.8, I think)

It has 250 turbo laser batteries, 250 heavy turbo laser batteries, 250 concussion missle tubes, 250 ion cannons, 40 tractor beams, and is decked out in a titanium reinforced Alusteel hull. It also had 12 squadrons of TIE-fighters, four of each (TIE-fighters, TIE-interceptors, TIE-bombers).

Onboard, it also had a full Stormtrooper corps of 38,000 troops, 25 AT-ATs, 50 AT-STs, various ground vehicles, and three pre-frabricated garrisons, ready to land on planet.

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Now, onto the Borg Cube.

This mammoth is said to be several kilometers both long and wide, and its crew is said to contain "thousands of Borg." Other than that, not a lot of specs are avalible on the Borg cube, other than the fact that it's really, really huge, about one fourth the size of Earth, has a LOT of guns, can "adapt" to weaponsfire and missles just as the Borg themselves can, and is really, really huge.

Anyway, this would be a really close battle, and I'm still not quiet sure. The SSD I feel would have an advantage in the beginning, but if they didn't destroy it fast enough, the Borg cube would adapt to their turbolasers, and then their heavy turbolasers, and even their Ion cannons. I suppose the wings of TIEs could help out, also, as they fire shots at different frequencies, and the Empire could send over Stormtrooper boarding parties, but they'd eventually adapt to that, as well...

I suppose it just depends on how fast the SSD responds, but if this is, say, the Executor with Admiral Piett, or even Darth Vader on board, I'd have to say the SSD would win.

star trek is gay but i will go with the super star destroyer because it has an entire fleet of ships within it and it also has hundred more turrets than the northern hemisphere of the deathstar and its vaders main ship

Go to ditl.org for st specs

GLENTRAWATS UP hey can you tell me when kotor three is due

Not much. I don't think the release date it out yet.

borg cube, cause of its ability to adapt and regenerate. if it was a death star, i'd say death star, one shot kill.

The Cube doesn't stand a chance. Look at stardestroyer.net

Yeah, I agree with Abominus.

But as for the SSD, oooooo, too many options.

There's always been an unresolved debate over the actual size of the SSD, some say 8 km, some say 18 km, and there's other.

The official StarWars.com website says 12,800 meters, so...

It was meant to be a compromise. But, above SW.com is the movies, and if you measure it in the movie, it is 17000 meters, so that is the canon one.

www.stardestroyer.net

That guy has already extensively and logically (and even scientifically) proven just how much better SW is to ST, and turbolasers on a Super Star Destroyer are more than enough to blast the Borg Cube into oblivion. There is no way the Borg can adapt to a technologically superior weapon in under a second. The initially battery would split that thing in half.

"George Lucas: Each gun in the Star Wars universe is able to destroy all Star Trek ships, this is official."

"Super Shadow: If they battle will take a while, then the super star destroyer is doomed as the borg cube will adapt although it doesn't make sense."

Here you have it, a word from the world foremost mega geniuses.
As for my opinion, I think we can't compare it to each other as Star Trek doesn't often make sense, at least less compared to Star Wars.

Yeah, Star Trek is just wacky.....that being, it's too related to Earth for it to go that far.

Star Wars was intentionally made to be out of it.

Is there not one person here who likes Star Trek or am I totaly alone?

I like Star Trek (mainly because of holodeck fantasies!(just kidding)), but I wouldn't bring it up in a Star Wars Forum. Especially not a versus forum..

Originally posted by Veneficus
Is there not one person here who likes Star Trek or am I totaly alone?

Star Trek is just too... wishy washy of a sci-fi. Here's just a few things I hate about the series:

- Whatever can be said normally, will be said overly long and with much pseudo-science words used inaccurately at will.

- Melrose Place type drama will be a mainstay of the series, despite the fact that one of the parties might be ugly, alien, or both.

- Technology shall be all unrealistic and extremely goofy looking (Like phasers- who the hell would want to use a weapon like that in combat?)

- Ground troopers, heavy artillery, naval strategy, private ownership of starships.... the Federation needs not these things.

- Good special effects make not one great.

- Every shall attend Starfleet academy, even non officers, and every senior bridge crew member will have a hand in every single mission done by this one ship.

- This series shall suck, period.

There you have it. Star Trek blows.

Star Trek is a more realistic approach to how our techonology might evolve. But I think Star Wars has some realistics to how our societys will evolve..

I'm going to go with The Borg Cube. The Borg send chills down the spines of the otherwise cold plastic Starship Enterprise.. They've converted Captain Piccard to a borg before, I'm sure they could do the same to the already half machine Vader.. Resistance is futile..

Originally posted by Spelljammer
Star Trek is a more realistic approach to how our techonology might evolve. But I think Star Wars has some realistics to how our societys will evolve..

I'm going to go with The Borg Cube. The Borg send chills down the spines of the otherwise cold plastic Starship Enterprise.. They've converted Captain Piccard to a borg before, I'm sure they could do the same to the already half machine Vader.. Resistance is futile..

Ah, no.

There's actually been a book written where a professional totally discounted the science behind Star Trek at most if not all levels. Star Trek is NOT realistic of how technology would evolve, unless society became a rigid, unthinking Communist bloc that obviously couldn't contend with a real modern day army. I mean, the Federation doesn't have artillery, it doesn't have privately owned ships, it doesn't have any real currency, it doesn't have human racism but it displays not so subtle speciesism... The list rages on and on.

Star Trek is nothing more than some pseudo-science soap opera where everything's clean and people live in peace and every episode there is a new and strange being and Captain Piccard asks it to please stop, and if he does something mundane or quasi-daring, it does.

Star Wars features realistic settings where things are lawless, dirty, grimey at times. Politics creates chaos, war is rampant, and good is often hard to separate from evil. Blaster technology is easier to swallow than phaser crap, and most certainly more economical. How does one aim a phaser properly anyways? From the hip of that one piece polyster suit?

And the Borg's zOMG converting powers don't mean crap if they get hailed on by SSD turbolasers. You want to know how powerful turbo lasers are?

Well, in one episode of ST:TNG, Riker says it would take an entire payload of photon torpedos from the Enterprise to destroy an asteroid.

In ESB, the Executer is using turbolasers to clear an asteroid field consisting of asteroids upwards of twenty, forty meters across (Comparable with the size of the Falcon). The process actually obliterates the asteroid.

How the hell is the Borg gonna get past that?

Ya, go read "The Science of Star Wars". I was amazed about how much of Star Wars makes sense in science, even if we don't break the laws of physics.