I cant understand what you wrote but I am sure it wouldnt have been wourth it anyway. DareDevil can jump from the rooftops of skyscrapers like it nothing. Wolverine jumps off a golf cart and he needs a five minute breather. I dont recall Wolverine ever bending steel either while DareDevil has and dont bring up the Origin of Wolverine I read that series and unfortunatly I wasnt impressed he sucks at fighting if it werent for his healing factor he would be dead long ago while DareDevil was never in a situation where he needed immediet healing. Why? Because he is better then Wolverine!
One time I was with Brasky in the back of a pickup truck, along with a live deer. Brasky goes up to the deer and says, 'I'm Bill Brasky! SAY IT!' Then he manipulates the deer's lips in such a way as to make it say, 'Billbrasky' ... It wasn't exactly like it, but it was pretty good for a deer!
We also forgot the Mandarin's son, Temujin.
1) KK-> Undisputed champion... What kind of person stalemates Superboy without powers? Friggin psycho.
2) Batman 1 Million-> Maybe it's because KK is all pre crisis, but even if he has learned thousands of martial arts from across the universe, KOing normal Batman and stealing his soul just isn't as impressive as shattering a gem that Superboy couldn't even dent. He's a pretty close second though.
3) Champion of the Universe-> The gigantic physical gap between Champion and the rest of the people of this list actually works against him here... He's gotta be ridiculously good, but he doesn't really ever exhibit pure skill showings. I'm gonna give him some massive benefit of the doubt and put him here.
4) Probably Mantis-> Has hurt some big kids like Thor and Juggernaut with pressure points alone. (don't ask how it worked on Juggs, it's comic book martial arts...) I think she somehow tripped the Runner too. That has to count for something.
I'm not too familiar with Gamora... I've heard things that should probably put her around here, but I've still got nothing.
5) Cassandra Cain-> Reads a person's stance and movement so as to predict their next moves. Usually does pretty well against Lady Shiva, which is why she's here.
6) Lady Shiva-> Her fighting skill is to the point that she no longer thinks about how she is going to beat a person, she thinks about which of the many ways that she could beat that person would look the coolest.
7) Shang Chi-> Kung Fu biatches. In pure skill, he's up there. Probably the best in Marvel next to Mantis and Gamora.
8) Batman-> Why? He's Batman. I'm talking proficiency here people. (it's why Cap won't be on the list... He's a great fighter, but Batman would own him pretty hard at sparring, as oppposed to real fighting) His level of skill fluctuates a lot, and the infinite chambers on his belt house any number of plot devices, but holding his own against Lady Shiva and beating up on Ra's Al Ghul are pretty impressive.
9) Green Arrow II-> Connor fought Shiva to a stalemate, but Batman's also probably fared that well against her. It's no small feat, but I just don't think it's really enough to put him above Bruce. Still damn good though.
10) Iron Fist-> Psychadellic costume, glowy hands. Pretty good even without the glowy hands.
I'm probably missing a lot of guys, like the ones SS posted, but I think my list's aight.
Originally posted by King KAM
Karate kid would loose to Champion of the Universe quickly.
Not in a sparring match he wouldn't... Champ is a HELL of alot stronger and more durable, but KK's done some crazy shizit. Dodging near-light speed projectiles, punching through futuristic metal tanks, one-hit KOing like 35 guys in a row, with a punch, shattering a gem that Superboy couldn't do any noticable damage to. (that's PRE crisis Superboy) He put Superboy in a hold so that even his "millions of times better than yours" strength couldn't break out of it. And of course, even more than all of that.
Batman 1 Million has also been schooled in literally thousands of forms of martial arts. Champ might give him a little trouble in a sparring match, but nothing (from what I've seen) to really put the fear of God into him.
Human lite martial artists?
Karate Kid, altho he has superhuman level feats.
Richard Dragon (pre crisis and post crisis rep, hes better than Batman and everyone else, save perhaps Shiva, and considered pretty much THE martial artist/teacher of DC).
Shang Chi. The best pure empty hand martial artist of the Marvel Universe.
Bronze Tiger, Iron Fist, Shiva, Shen Kuei a.k.a The "Cat". (Slighty under the two above overall. They belong to the same ballpark. Just on different places of it).
Batgirl, Daredevil.
Connor Hawke, Black canary (Possibly, for what ive seen in BoP, shes tops).
And in case some are counting this and wondering where Batman is, ill say right away he doesnt make the top 10 for me.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
People left Wolverine off for a good reason.He just doesn't belong in the Top Ten for best martial artists.
You can attempt, and I do mean attempt, to counter me all you want. But it'll just be non-sensical jibberish to not only me, but most people.
Wolverine is good, but he's not Top Ten worthy.
According to Marvel he is.