Originally posted by NamorI was giving that as an example, most everyone he fights outside a couple of the crazy Gothamites are well into Superhuman Strength and Speed, are they not? They are! Even Azreal is, Clayface is, Bane is, Deathstroke is. . . These are not people an average person could fight. Batman can.
Hail to the God-Like Batman who trades blows with SUPERMAN and calculates EVERY SINGLE DETAIL in every single situation he fights in! Hail I say!
But, he does analyze every detail.
Originally posted by SuperherovandalI'm talking about comic book Batman, AKA, not movie Batman. The comics are the median in which we argue, and Batman consistantly shows he can beat those with superhuman speed and strength, granted I did mention a couple of the high end spectrum feats.. but they are just that.. high end. Surfer high end went at it with Tyrant, Tyrant high end rivalled Galactus.. Does this make sense?
we all know he's talking about Batman A.
"R. Dragon got killed by Lady Shiva"
Did you even read the issue?
Batman is not on par with those two. Neither with Bronze Tiger. Never has.
"And Green Arrows son had one lucky showing, not very impressive."
Do you know who got owned in the issue Connor fought Shiva?
Grayson. Like always.
"NW and Arsenal are typically written as much better martial artists"
So whose major martial artist with a rep did they stand upon?
Originally posted by olympianLike I said---NW and Arsenal are typically written as much better martial artists.
Do you know who got owned in the issue Connor fought Shiva?Grayson. Like always.
"NW and Arsenal are typically written as much better martial artists"
So whose major martial artist with a rep did they stand upon?
Everyone has feats, some people have hundreds that get disregarded but Connor goes at it with Shiva and all of sudden he's the dopest martial artist after years of getting his ass kicked? Get the **** out of here.
Well whether people like it or not Bats probably will top the list thanks to the "Bat Factor" that some how enables him to win against high powered foes by making the foes act like complete idiots who've never fought before in their lives.
and as I remember correctly isn't Connor's ability to remember and instantly be able to copy any move he sees? either way he still loses he can't hang with the veterans.
"Like I said---NW and Arsenal are typically written as much better martial artists."
I ask you again. What has Arsenal has ever done impressive at martial arts? You know who is below the guys i said that are better than him? The Question. Savante. Huntress. Wildcat.
"Everyone has feats, some people have hundreds that get disregarded but Connor goes at it with Shiva and all of sudden he's the dopest martial artist after years of getting his ass kicked? Get the **** out of here."
After, im fine here right now.
What years of ass wooping did Connor had since the guy who made him an uber MA at DC was the same who created him.
Im talking about -martial arts abilities- here. Connor doesnt fight every opponent with it does he. Neither does Batman.
"all of a sudden" doesnt make it less viable. Or are you going to argue that Abomination once wasent stronger than the Hulk because he beat him in theyr first match ever. Wasent that viable to you?
Connor at MA for what its been showed, its better than either the two. Grayson never did anything against Shiva of mention either than getting kicked around. Arsenal even less.
Originally posted by olympian
"Like I said---NW and Arsenal are typically written as much better martial artists."I ask you again. What has Arsenal has ever done impressive at martial arts? You know who is below the guys i said that are better than him? The Question. Savante. Huntress. Wildcat.
"Everyone has feats, some people have hundreds that get disregarded but Connor goes at it with Shiva and all of sudden he's the dopest martial artist after years of getting his ass kicked? Get the **** out of here."
After, im fine here right now.
What years of ass wooping did Connor had since the guy who made him an uber MA at DC was the same who created him.
Im talking about -martial arts abilities- here. Connor doesnt fight every opponent with it does he. Neither does Batman.
"all of a sudden" doesnt make it less viable. Or are you going to argue that Abomination once wasent stronger than the Hulk because he beat him in theyr first match ever. Wasent that viable to you?
Connor at MA for what its been showed, its better than either the two. Grayson never did anything against Shiva of mention either than getting kicked around. Arsenal even less.
Don't bother arguing about Arsenal cause he's not even gonna make the list.
Captain America is better than Batman physically but in Martial art skills Batman is better. Batman has shown numerous deadly death tactic that rivals even Shiva's leopard blow. But he does not uses it. Batgirl is quite uneven in her fights. She beat Shiva but Shiva had a emotional problem that time. Batman fought Batgirl to a standstill while Cass had her bloodlust on too.
Let the enhanced humans stay besides the top tier martial artist have been able to take it to them on a regular basis.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
See, we all know to disregard what Juntai says because he's just a Batman fanboy.Oops, I said that out loud. Oh wait, I meant to. Nevermind then.
Come now has it gotten to that point where we do not accept facts simply becasue we do not agree with it. Or do we just call them fanboys simply beacuse they have stomped us in every way imaginable (Well at least in this particular case).....🙂