Colossus vs. Captain America

Started by OneDumbG015 pages

But since Cap is not a dousche bag and probably knows how durable Colossus is, wouldn't he keep his distance? Yes, if Colossus whacked Cap, Cap would take a snooze... but... the point is, even that being true... and granting to you that Cap cannot hurt Colossus, (Owhich is again rischnokulous), how is it guaranteed that Colossus would tag Cap?

If it ain't gauaranteed, and if Cap's agility and smarts can keep him one step ahead of Peter... wouldn't even a range attack like a shockwave clap just carry the Old Soldier to safety? Even if he hits the ground and causes shockwaves, Cap could just jump rto safety. And if Colossus hits it with so much force that the shockwaves last more than a few seconds so that Cap lands into the disaster after he jumps (which I doubt he could accomplish anyway), he'd probably bury himself in the process. Hell, that shield has protected him from Thanos, Loki blasts and enraged She-Hulks. Even if Colossus can maneuiver in to get a shot in, Cap could take a shot with his shield any day and would most likely have the presence of mind to glance away Colossus blow.

And I have very rarely seen anybody take Cap's shield away from him unless they were both strong and fast like Namor. In fact, I've only seen two instances where someone grabbed Cap's shield away from his hands or in mid-flight EVER. Once was when someone used magic to guide to steal it mid-flight (Kulan gath) and the second in a recent scan of Namor whackiung Cap and taking it himself in a Wolverine v Namor thread. I'm not saying there arent more, but i highly doubt Colossus could do it. If Cap is standing still, sure Colossus could do it. But who here thinks, Cap's going to stand there like a schlub? He's not stupid. Damn,dedfending Cap has finalyl started to sober me up. You guys suck. 😠

You honestly think a shockwave would "carry" him like a horse on a caruosel? If that's true, bombs are harmless. The shockwave would LIQUIFY his organs.

Originally posted by Draco69
You honestly think a shockwave would "carry" him like a horse on a caruosel? If that's true, bombs are harmless. The shockwave would LIQUIFY his organs.
I don't understand... I doubt even Colossus would be capable of a shockwave that effective via a hand-clap. Hulk made a shockwave when Spidey was on his back via the same hand-clap method in an issue of Amazing Spider-man when Hulk was bloodlusted because of a gamma virus, and all it did was throw Spidey for a loop. It didn't liquefy his organs at all. I doubt Colossus could make a more effective one than Hulk considering Hulk is bigger and stronger and bloodlusted in that issue...

And the shockwave from pummeling the ground would carry itself through the ground mostly in a downward direction. The reason some bombs are so effective is that they explode outward after hitting the ground. I don't even think we have a machine invented capable of throwing metal pylons into the ground and causing a shockwave outwards similiar to a bomb's outward explosion. Colossus does not have the mutant ability to redirect shockwaves, they'd just go straight down and vibrate through the ground and cause, at best, a residual shockwave effect within a limited radius.

Originally posted by Draco69
???? I'm for Colossus. And logic. I don't what side you're on.

im for colossus. im just trying to state that colossus is strong enough to remove the shield from Captain America's grasp and defeat him

Colossus... the most cap can do is hit him with the shield... whats that gonna do against a guy whos eyeballs can deflect magnum bullets... 😖

yes

Cap wins

what is the matter with you? no offense intended. first you say wolverine can beat havok, now Capt America can beat Colossus?

Go to page 1 look at King Kam's pic Cap is too smart for colossus batman could beat colossus too but your probably gonna come back and say how colossus is out of caps leauge but cap wins so chill

Originally posted by Droopy
Go to page 1 look at King Kam's pic Cap is too smart for colossus batman could beat colossus too but your probably gonna come back and say how colossus is out of caps leauge but cap wins so chill

umm... what is batman going to do? or cap for that matter?

Hey if it comes to saving the world who you gonna pick Caps a legend Colossus goes down

Originally posted by DrDoom101
what is the matter with you? no offense intended. first you say wolverine can beat havok, now Capt America can beat Colossus?
Yeah but... even though you guys reject my arguments about how Cap could damage Colossus... I have already pretty much shot down all your arguments and theories as to how Colossus could damage Cap. I mean... isn't the argument about Superman v Hulk, is that although Hulk could hurt him if he got his hands on him, Superman would never let himself get hit in the first place, because of his speed? I'm just applying the same thing here... if its so obvious to you guys that Colossus cannot be hurt by Cap's shield or fists, I'm pretty sure Cap would understand that too and not go toe to toe with him...

Why are all your scenarios about Colossus being on top of Cap and ripping his shield away or punching him? Since when is Cap dumb and flatfooted? In the end, you guys at best can only argue for a stalemate. Which is what I was saying. I wasn't saying that Cap could take this easily. But granting all your assumptions and not ignoring Cap's ability to evade, how can Colossus do anything but stalemate?

I still haven't posted my scans to show how effective a force his shield is. That thing can cut through a lot... If anything, it should be able to at least dent Colossus a lil bit. And I'm just arguing for his normal shield... but that'll come this weekend.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Yeah but... even though you guys reject my arguments about how Cap could damage Colossus... I have already pretty much shot down all your arguments and theories as to how Colossus could damage Cap. I mean... isn't the argument about Superman v Hulk, is that although Hulk could hurt him if he got his hands on him, Superman would never let himself get hit in the first place, because of his speed? I'm just applying the same thing here... if its so obvious to you guys that Colossus cannot be hurt by Cap's shield or fists, I'm pretty sure Cap would understand that too and not go toe to toe with him...

Why are all your scenarios about Colossus being on top of Cap and ripping his shield away or punching him? Since when is Cap dumb and flatfooted? In the end, you guys at best can only argue for a stalemate. Which is what I was saying. I wasn't saying that Cap could take this easily. But granting all your assumptions and not ignoring Cap's ability to evade, how can Colossus do anything but stalemate?

I still haven't posted my scans to show how effective a force his shield is. That thing can cut through a lot... If anything, it should be able to at least dent Colossus a lil bit. And I'm just arguing for his normal shield... but that'll come this weekend.

Yeah just cause a dudes stronger he wins cap wins

So you guys don't think for one second that Cap will try and throw his shield?

Colossus, being faster and quicker in his steel form, would just catch it.

And then toss it China.

Uh oh. Looks like Cap is shieldless now. Whatever will he do?

Die.

And yea, I know. Cap could avoid Colossus all day long. Great way to win a fight there.

If that's how you guys wanna go about it, fine. They stalemate.

Of course, that's not how I really feel. Cap would try something, anything to damage the Russian. And when he tries, Colossus rips him apart.

It's not even funny, guys.

And lord, Batman would lose probably even faster than Cap.

Written properly and ignoring the "idol"-status of Cap, he has no chance of winning against Colossus.
A guy who can stop trains with his bare hands without any problems (i know it was ultimate C, but he is supposed to be even weaker than 616 C) will certainly be not impressed by peak human punches, even when they are supported by a shield.
The best Cap could do is to stay out of Colossus's reach for the rest of his life.

I guess we all know this would never happen in a comic where MR.CAPTAIN AMERICA is nigh unbeatable however stupid it may be, but this is a versus forum scenario and not a comic!

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How in the name of ankle wings has this gone to Page 6?!

What is Cap going to do? Bang him with his sheild? Good trying, Colossus could just sit there all day and wait until Cap gets tired and then punch his head to Canada...

Seriously.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
How in the name of ankle wings has this gone to Page 6?!

What is Cap going to do? Bang him with his sheild? Good trying, Colossus could just sit there all day and wait until Cap gets tired and then punch his head to Canada...

Seriously.


youre a genius....cap can tire colossus out,and then win by exhaustion.

Originally posted by King KAM
youre a genius....cap can tire colossus out,and then win by exhaustion.

Dude. Colossus doesn't tire in his metal form. He doesn't have to sleep, eat, or breathe.

And he can stay in it for forever.

1 + 1 = 2.

Colossus wins.

Originally posted by King KAM
youre a genius....cap can tire colossus out,and then win by exhaustion.
I guess you already read Dark Crawlers comment...i agree with it!
And even if it wouldn't be this way, how is just sitting there and getting punched by someone whose punches you can barely feel going to exhaust Colossus???