The Ultimate Thing vs The Ultimate Colossus

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
25,000 tons is a reasonable estimate too for the weight of the submarine itself. To displace the water and lift and move the submarine at ocean depths would require more force than just that to counter the submarine's weight though so it's still an underestimate. Motion is also hindered by increased resistance.

BTW Do you know how fast the train was going?

No, but I assume very speedy. They were bad guys afterall, trying to get back to their secret base in a hurry. And you know those bad guys. They travel everywhere really fast. Lemme look at it again really quick...

Yea. Judging by the crash, the train had to be travelling UBER fast. Look at how many cars were flung high up into the air due to the impact.

And Colossus stopped it dead. You can tell this because there are no foot trails in left in the ground which would prove if he skidded or not. He just stopped it dead. Like the human Colossus he is.

The fastest speed recorded for a conventional train is around 300 mph. But assuming a train, of weight 6,000 tons, was going half that, 150 mph, by my (very very rough) estimation the force equivalent to lifting approx 40,000 tons would be required to halt the train. Bear in mind that's a (very very rough) estimate, there's no way to tell how fast the train was actually going, and I'm assuming an elastic collision since I haven't done any physics in ages and elastic collisions are simpler. Seems about right though beside surfacing the Russian submarine and overpowering Magneto's magnetism.

how many people where in the sub?

Colossus lifted that submarine all by himself.

In a recent Ultimates issue it took Ironman and Captain Britain and a few others to do the same thing.

Here is Colossus smashing Ironman into the ground.