Dr. Strange vs. Darkseid and Cyborg (evil)

Originally posted by long pig
Which time are you talking about blocking the I.G? He's done it twice.

When? Doom has owned the Beyonder, so it's not a low feat to be owned by Doom. But still, when was Strange owned by Doom?

On the two occasions they've faught, Strange dominated harshly while holding back.

Strange can take either of these guys without prep, probably easily, but at the same time they'd be a bit to much.

Give him 30 minutes prep and he wins 8/10.

And Doom on a whim can own Beyonder and Galactus anytime he likes?

Originally posted by Jargon343
The Tribunal tried sending Cyborg into a blackhole at the end of 'The Trial of Superman' but it didn't work. Cyborg isn't even a physical entity, he's just a conciousness that moves from one machine to another. Strange wouldn't be fighting just Cyborg and Darkseid, he'd be fighting Darkseid and the planet Apocalypse, which would be the Cyborgs playground.

thats actually a really good point

Dude, Cyborg was trapped by beams, Strange can do more than beams (with prep), and DS's Obeams can be reflected !!

remember........................... WITH PREP TIME !!!

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Which 2 times?
I know once he hid warlock from it..or actually its inexperienced user, and the other time was shielding his home from a less than 2% blast of the gauntlet from the other side of the galaxy. Did I forget something?

And Doom on a whim can own Beyonder and Galactus anytime he likes?

1st time was the blast you just mentioned. But I don't really consider it as one.
2nd was shielding himself and Warlock and two others from the power of the I.G
3rd time was a full out battle between Doc and Warlock(Who went mad with power after obtaining the I.G) in which Doc was able to reverse and stop each gem with his own power then, at the end was able to stalemate the full force of the I.G with his tools and skill.
He had about 5 min prep for the major I.G feat.

I stick to my first comment, give Doc 30 min prep, and he wins 8/10.

These two against him without prep will take him down.

The only thing that keeps Strange from being fully skyfather is the fact he has a human body, his skill and power are up in the SF league.

Like, Strange with Wrecker's body=Skyfather

Originally posted by ImmortalOne
Dude, Cyborg was trapped by beams, Strange can do more than beams (with prep), and DS's Obeams can be reflected !!

remember........................... WITH PREP TIME !!!

Why block when you can reflect it ?? !

Kinda what I meant.

It sucks that ol' 'Seid has been broken down to this level, though.

I almost feel sad arguing against him, he's like a beaten old lion, he can't help what D.C did to him. 🙁

hes like a deity, that has been ripped-off his powers !!

A diety ripped of his body and thrown into a middle aged swiss porn star's body.

He can amp his physical stats, but usually only his speed/reaction. Never saw him do strength except by using chi.

Originally posted by long pig
Well, maybe three times. Damn, Strange is the man.

1st time was the blast you just mentioned. But I don't really consider it as one.
2nd was shielding himself and Warlock and two others from the power of the I.G
3rd time was a full out battle between Doc and Warlock(Who went mad with power after obtaining the I.G) in which Doc was able to reverse and stop each gem with his own power then, at the end was able to stalemate the full force of the I.G with his tools and skill.
He had about 5 min prep for the major I.G feat.

I stick to my first comment, give Doc 30 min prep, and he wins 8/10.

These two against him without prep will take him down.

The only thing that keeps Strange from being fully skyfather is the fact he has a human body, his skill and power are up in the SF league.

Like, Strange with Wrecker's body=Skyfather

Agreed about the 30 min thing. Giving a magician prep is pretty much guaranteeing victory.

Where did that 3rd battle take place? Sounds like a book I'd like to pick up.

It's in the Strange respect thread I made. I uploaded the whole fight.

comic section.