Originally posted by black robb
Why would Gambit rush Wolverine? I mean he knows how Wolvie loves to just jump in,wouldnt he await his move first? And obviously he'd stay at a distance since his main form of attack is throwing objects. You are seriously not respecting his intelligence.
No, I'm not respecting the people who said Gambit could just grab Wolverine and blow him up....
Originally posted by PiedmonI NEVER SAID THAT!!!!! For the last time if it came down to a close range fight,well then Wolverine wins,BUT my whole argument was that Gambit with his distance,firepower,accuracy,and speed,could keep Wolverine at bay longe enough to blow him to pieces
No, I'm not respecting the people who said Gambit could just grab Wolverine and blow him up....
Originally posted by PiedmonWHY WOULD HE TRY TO FIGHT HIM IN MELEE WHEN HE CAN THROW EXPLOSIVES AT HIM!!!!!! And how can you say a card with the force of to blow threw a robot made of space age metals would only cause a '"minor injury"? And once again,wouldnt it be hard to avoid taking the brunt of an attack when you're running dead in to somebody?
Refer to my post. Gambit has a chance if he tries to keep at a distance. If he tries to fight Wolverine in melee, he's going to die fast. A single exploding card would knock Wolverine back, but hardly phase him. A hail could put him down longer..... but Wolverine doesn't necissarily have to completely avoid the blow in order to avoid taking the brunt of it. He knows he can cope almost instantly with minor injuries, so long as he avoids the worst of it.....
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For ****'s sake....
1. That's ULTIMATE Gambit and Wolverine. These are alternate universe versions of the characters. Even if Ultimate Gambit can charge Adamantium, that has no bearing on the nature of 616 Gambit's powers.
2. Gambit TOLD Wolverine he could charge that adamantium skeleton. Does that make it true? Of course not. Gambit's a very charismatic man. He could easily pull off such a bluff, if Wolverine were ignorant of his powers' nature (as Ultimate Wolverine would be.)
3. Gambit's powers work on ORGANIC materials. Wood, soil, flesh, those things. His telekenetic charges can travel through metal (usually via his staff) but he CANNOT make metal/inorganic objects explode.
4. Of course Wolverine rushes Gambit. That's his best chance to win. I believe we're working with the assumption this fight takes place in an empty, sealed area (let's say the Danger Room with all programs deactivated.)
Gambit is quicker than Wolverine, yes, but that's not the same thing as being faster. If you ever go to a track meet, go take a look at the sprinters. They're pretty buff, not the stereotypical scrawny lightweights you think of as "runners." That's because speed comes from muscle power. Who do you think has more of that power--Gambit, or Wolverine?
Wolverine is insanely durable. He takes punches from Spider Man, gets hit by trains, clipped by planes, and all kinds of shit that should make even a man with an indestructible skeleton fall apart. Gambit gets about four seconds to throw his cards before Wolverine clears the distance. He might knock Wolverine back a few times, but I think Wolverine is tenacious and durable enough to make it through the field of fire and end the fight. Not that Gambit has no chance, but I think in a straight-up fight odds SERIOUSLY favor Wolverine.
* as the comic said, Gambit can charge anything not organic, turn potential energy to kinetic then make it explode... adamantium, as durable as it may be, can be charged up, no questions asked...
* but in a circumstance in a close conflict, like the one posted above, i'll go for a draw... it's a stalemate.
Originally posted by Piedmon
3. Gambit's powers work on ORGANIC materials. Wood, soil, flesh, those things. His telekenetic charges can travel through metal (usually via his staff) but he CANNOT make metal/inorganic objects explode.
...Did you really just say this?
Com'on, bro. I know you know far better than this.
You said it the complete opposite way. Gambit's powers work on INORGANIC materials. NOT ORGANIC.
Wood, soil, or flesh would be completely unphased when Gambit tries to charge them.
METALS, on the other hand, are easily charged by him.
Why the hell do you think he carries cards? He could just grab dirt if he wants. But it's organic, so it won't work.
He CAN make metal/inorganic objects explode.
In fact, yea. Those are the only things he can affect.
actauly gambit only win was from hitting wolverine in the back well wolverine was attacking rogue. ohj and by the way wolverine could of killed gambit but was tryind to get gambit to give up so he wouldent have to kill him. also by the way that was ultimate unverse it totaly diffrent. also i might add that pic dident make sense because it razor sharp he would of cut him self and wolverine easly could of chopped off his hand that big made no sense. that more prove how much ulitmate wolverine sucks next to NU. by the way gambit got beat by a clone wolverine who healing factor and fighting skill sucked next to the orignal.
by the way gambit is not mroe agile. oh and if u think that basket ball game proved he was ur wrong because at the end of the game wolverine makes a amzaing shot with out looking on a slanted board and Jubilee realize that wolverine had not been using his normal agility he was holding back.
and attack speed wolverine is far faster his hand would be blurs to gambit.
also gambit can not throu his cards faster then a gun can shoot and wolverine has shown on many occassions he can easly dodge bullets.
gambit finds it HARD to charge LIVING organic matter, non living he has never had a problem with, we are talking about a man who could easily charge and blow up a building in less then 15 seconds, he can hypnotize people which even have resistance to telepathy, lets not forget that he can use his own powers to boost his speed, strength, agility, reflexes, senses and surability to SUPERHUMAN levels, personally i dont think wolverine stands a chance, gambit is too powerful of an energy manipulater. plus i would put his hand to hand skills slightly lower than wolverine or cyclops and on par with psylocke, he is EXTREMELY skilled, and even more so with his heightened senses and physique.
Gambit is displayed as being more resourceful and versatile than Wolverine. However, Gambit is not one of the top tier fighters like Wolvie...just look at his fights with Bullseye and the other assasins.
However, I think Gambit is just too crafty and athletic for Wolvie to beat. Gambit can't beat Wolverine straight up...but I can see Gambit avoiding getting killed by Wolvie and hitting him with long range attacks.
gambit can't win. unless some one interfears like most of there fights. if not for interfearence then gambit would be dead a long time a go. also lion heart ur last post has shown u know nuthign about wolverine. u just tried to say scot skill wise is on par with wolverine that is a joke skill wise wolverine would destroy scot. also u saying gambit is on the same level skill wise as phylock is a joke as well. phylocke skill wise would beat the living shit out of scot, so u prove u know nuthing about the characters we are discussing.