Originally posted by newjak86
I don't think WW has the advatage in Strength plus Juggs has fought people like Thor and the X-Men each of which have flight and other things similar to WW and he has hit Thor before.
WW does have the strength advantage Juggs is damn strong but the only reason he can go toe to toe with the like of Thor or the likes of all the X-men a once is cause he's basically invulnerable to physical harm. He can still feel it and be knocked out though.
Originally posted by Marvel=DCActually no he was once said when he tried to lift Thor's Hammer and couldn't that I am at least as strong as him I should be able to lift the hammer. So he is aleast as Strong as Thor.
WW does have the strength advantage Juggs is damn strong but the only reason he can go toe to toe with the like of Thor or the likes of all the X-men a once is cause he's basically invulnerable to physical harm. He can still feel it and be knocked out though.
Originally posted by newjak86
Actually no he was once said when he tried to lift Thor's Hammer and couldn't that I am at least as strong as him I should be able to lift the hammer. So he is aleast as Strong as Thor.
Since when has Juggs been as strong as Thor? Either way he's still outclassed. Diana beat truly invulnerable people before
Originally posted by newjak86
Since Cain was placed in the 100 plus ton mark. Plus he he can call on more strength from Cyttorak which menas his strength could be limitless.
If we're calling on powers what to stop Diana from calling on the Godwave or Thor or Captain Marvel from pulling similar feats?
Originally posted by Marvel=DCWell since I was only talking about his trength and not his power level. If he idd that then Juggs would be above Skyfather and would own everyone here.
If we're calling on powers what to stop Diana from calling on the Godwave or Thor or Captain Marvel from pulling similar feats?
Originally posted by newjak86
Well since I was only talking about his trength and not his power level. If he idd that then Juggs would be above Skyfather and would own everyone here.
I'm just saying that Juggs strength is not to be taken likely. Also Juggs has Taken Thor's Godforce Blast i doubt the Godwave would hurt him.
I'm not taking Juggs strength lightly regardless I still think WW wins I don't particularly see this fight effecting the out come of the entire fight(unless WW wins) I still say DC wins. Also Juggs helmet can still be knocked off. I also recall a crossover in which Spiderman was fighting him and WW was fighting a god from New Genesis or Apokilips and Diana ended up taking Juggs out.
Originally posted by Marvel=DCNo one takes crossovers seriously I mean in one Lobo lost to Wolverine so many don't really except them. Let's not forget Supes has knocked out Juggs in one punch and Juggs has taken Thor's best so is Thor that much weaker than Supes no. Also just because Jugg's helmet is gone doesn't mean a thing. the helmet only prtoects him from telepathic attacks thats it.
I'm not taking Juggs strength lightly regardless I still think WW wins I don't particularly see this fight effecting the out come of the entire fight(unless WW wins) I still say DC wins. Also Juggs helmet can still be knocked off. I also recall a crossover in which Spiderman was fighting him and WW was fighting a god from New Genesis or Apokilips and Diana ended up taking Juggs out.
Originally posted by newjak86
No one takes crossovers seriously I mean in one Lobo lost to Wolverine so many don't really except them. Let's not forget Supes has knocked out Juggs in one punch and Juggs has taken Thor's best so is Thor that much weaker than Supes no. Also just because Jugg's helmet is gone doesn't mean a thing. the helmet only prtoects him from telepathic attacks thats it.
The helmet being off does leave him open for attack form Martian Manhunter and they will capitalize on that guaranteed and your right cause I think the comic I was referring to was the stupid one when Storm beat WW I'm not sure. DC still wins Supes and Glads and Marvel and Thor will stalemate each other and MM will beat hulk soon enough to help either WW, Cap or Supes.
Not really Hulk is stronger than MM he can't hurt MM right off but Hulk has a resistance to mental attacks so I don't see how MM takes down Hulk soon. I see Shazam beating Thor Glads and Supes is a toss up Juggs beats WW.
So then it goes to this
Juggernaut vs Shazam
Supes and Glads are still fighting so are MM and Hulk.
I think Juggernaut beats Shazam as Juggernaut can take anything Shazam offers and Shazam can't.
Then it becomes 3 against 2.
Whoever Juggs goes and helps out will win and then it is 3 vs 1
Originally posted by newjak86
Not really Hulk is stronger than MM he can't hurt MM right off but Hulk has a resistance to mental attacks so I don't see how MM takes down Hulk soon. I see Shazam beating Thor Glads and Supes is a toss up Juggs beats WW.
So then it goes to this
Juggernaut vs Shazam
Supes and Glads are still fighting so are MM and Hulk.
I think Juggernaut beats Shazam as Juggernaut can take anything Shazam offers and Shazam can't.
Then it becomes 3 against 2.
Whoever Juggs goes and helps out will win and then it is 3 vs 1
Could go either way lets just agree to disagree.
P.S. I think your one of the best debaters I've had the pleasure to debate with.