Revan vs Sion

Started by Deus Ex2 pages

Well, Sion obviously didn't have anything disrespectful to say about Revan that I recall, but I don't think there's a reason to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that Sion will lose, either.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
Well, Sion obviously didn't have anything disrespectful to say about Revan that I recall, but I don't think there's a reason to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that Sion will lose, either.

Seriously Janus... I know you want evidence but argueing this?

I mean first of all, its pretty clear that Revan outclasses on Sion on every level there is.

Its also pretty clear that Kreia loves Revan as much if not more as the Exile. And Sion hates the Exile because of that, it would only be natural to assume he would hate Revan for the same reason.

We also know that Revan is a brilliant speaker and overal great thinker so we can assume he would be able to talk Sion into death if just walking up to him wouldn't be enough.

But seriously Revan could probably take Sion with the force alone, I mean Sion does need the force to survive, take that away from him and he's dead.

Oh, don't get me wrong... I think Revan would most likely rock Sion's world. But there isn't much to go on.


I mean first of all, its pretty clear that Revan outclasses on Sion on every level there is.

We don't know on saber skills, and Revan doesn't display a whole lot of Force powers in cutscenes, so we can only guess at what he can do (other than force choke). While it seems obvious that Revan's power is immense, it's also suubject to everyone's ideas of him as well, not any hard proof. And Sion's powers are immense as well, seeing as he was able to hold his body together despite it being broken in thousands of different places, and torn, etc. This implies a good understanding of his own body, of the Force, and a strong will.


Its also pretty clear that Kreia loves Revan as much if not more as the Exile. And Sion hates the Exile because of that, it would only be natural to assume he would hate Revan for the same reason.

We also know that Revan is a brilliant speaker and overal great thinker so we can assume he would be able to talk Sion into death if just walking up to him wouldn't be enough.

This is possible, but it involves heavy speculation on Sion and Revan's mindsets. For all we know, Revan may prefer not to directly fight Sion, or perhaps Sion will instead attack Revan out of sheer rage.


But seriously Revan could probably take Sion with the force alone, I mean Sion does need the force to survive, take that away from him and he's dead.

There's no instance of Revan stealing the Force from anyone, really. It's not out of the question, but it's not something we can cite either.

Well Janus on the first thing. The Star Forge...

Sion never tried to control it and Bastila says the most powerful of the Sith Order, the most powerful people on Koriban died trying to control it. Sion is still alive obviously he did not try. Well okay there can be several reasons for that, but its unlikely that he didn't want the power. He is a Sith afterall and he does seem to like power.

On your second point Well okay its possible that Sion would get angry and attack Revan, but an angry fighter isn't much of a fighter... Revan seems calm and calculated from all we know so he would probably take Sion easier then.

You are right on the third thing, still it woudln't be strange if Revan knew how to strip the force or forcefully remove the force from somebody and even if he didn't there are probably other ways to throw Sion to the ground.

Actually i'm not going to argue this with you, because you already said you agree. And i'm not going to stand up for Revan anymore, because its just damn impossible to do.


Sion never tried to control it and Bastila says the most powerful of the Sith Order, the most powerful people on Koriban died trying to control it. Sion is still alive obviously he did not try. Well okay there can be several reasons for that, but its unlikely that he didn't want the power. He is a Sith afterall and he does seem to like power.

This is precluding that he -couldn't- control the Star Forge. This is heavy speculation and for all we know Sion could very well have had the power but he decided against using the Star Forge because everyone else who went up to it died. Or perhaps he thought it was a weapon of war and he IS an assassion. It was not even his forte.


On your second point Well okay its possible that Sion would get angry and attack Revan, but an angry fighter isn't much of a fighter... Revan seems calm and calculated from all we know so he would probably take Sion easier then.

This is true, and Revan is likely to be the better lightsaber duellist. But this involves so many unknowns I won't place any money on either side. It could turn out by KOTOR III that Revan was a better planner than a fighter, and that Sion was in tern better.


You are right on the third thing, still it woudln't be strange if Revan knew how to strip the force or forcefully remove the force from somebody and even if he didn't there are probably other ways to throw Sion to the ground.

Most likely. Knowing the popularity of Revan, it's likely he'll develop into some sort of badass or Forcegod, moreso than he already is.


Actually i'm not going to argue this with you, because you already said you agree. And i'm not going to stand up for Revan anymore, because its just damn impossible to do.

E-mail Bioware or Obsidian... ask them some questions. It might help.

It won't...

They aren't going to answer anything you ask.. But lets just say that Revan will defeat Sion because its far more likely then the other way around even though we don't have any real proof.

Just like we don't have any real proof that Tulak Hord would beat Plo Kloon in a lightsaber duel but its probably true all the same.

Agreed.

i rot for the strong, silent, and not gray nasty one.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
i rot for the strong, silent, and not gray nasty one.
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