Nataku vs. Solidus Snake

antro may not, but but anthro amalgamated can. and remember u are not fighting groo. u are fighting someone with his battle prowess. but i dont expect you to understand that so i was expect u to say again before the week is over that i'm "using a guy who is foiled constantly by his own stupidity"

and im also using bloodscreams enhanced mind. so just groo's skills. im gonna cut and paste this arguement so that i can use it again when u talk crap again.

so u are telling me that in mid teleport u are going to sense me swinging a sword behind u and that u are gonna be fast enough to block it? HA!!!!!!!

u may tell that im behind u, but u will not be able to stop me when my sword is already upon u.

in ur file....u didnt mention any neck armor by the way

i see chest and back armor. no neck. your head comes off.

ive never seen anyone fend off an attack out of a teleport. i even let u get off with the BS that u wouldnt be disoriented.

and antro can teleport ppl he isnt touching. he did it with deathweb.

PS my take on the force sense is that if u know something is coming u can predect how to block it. like when luke was training with those floating balls. when u know something is coming in an expected way, its predictable.

nonspecific and unpredictable attacks (such as being teleported) are difficult if not impossible to react against with any certainty. i mean, who expects to be teleported as soon as they get in a fight.

so when luke knew the lil balls were gonna fire at him he could block. when a jedi is being attacked by a man with a blaster he can predict it (maybe sorta like midnighter), but an unpredictable attack. the force is useless/diminished to it.

this is why when major events occur they know something is going down, but not what it is. or when the soldiers turned on the jedi knights in part 3 it was totally unanticipated and they were taken by surprise and slain. complete surprises baffle the force sense.

It's occurred to me that the whole "I can look at you and teleport you" could easily be applied to anything hurled at "The Deacon," thus making him rather untouchable. Not quite sure why Antro doesn't always do this in the first place, but we're putting a stop to it. This power has to be toned down, as we've allowed normal teleporters, but this is far beyond even that.

You can teleport yourself, and if you come into contact with your opponent, you can teleport him. Otherwise, the remote teleportation is wicked close to TK (Moving a person at will without any sort of contact) which is banned for this tourney. I apologize, SS, but it's in the interest of fairness.

Voting Nataku. Predators in general are just teh badass, and Broken Tusk's a prime example. Azrael and sweetness force powers don't hurt either... And yes, it is really... really... really hard to surprise anyone who happens to wield the Force.

There goes your chief argument pal. GG.

As for the non-listing of neck armor, I wasn't even aware it existed until I looked closer at my comic. I'm assuming it's a collar that goes with the chest/back plates.

As for the force sense debate, yes, you understand it, but you forget that the System that I have allows me to use the force to the peak of its abilities, beyond that of anyone short of the best masters of the force. I can completely clear my mind and focus 100% on the force and feel all the paths radiating from the point in time, I can sense your movements before they happen, and I will know how to react.

You're talking about Groo's skills, lets see some scans of his skills, besides just stated feats. I can say that my predator has killed thousands of aliens, he's fought hundreds at the same time, but was he ever LITERALLY fighting them at the same instant? No. He was fighting them in packs, just like groo was fighting soldiers. Guess what's more dangerous? Aliens, by a leap and a mile. Yeyinde could cut down a thousand human foot soldiers in his sleep.

You keep talking about Bloodscream's enhanced senses, THEY AREN'T THAT GOOD! He barely keeps up with Wolverine, and that's peak human, slightly above, at best.

You say you've never seen someone fend of an attack from out of a teleport, then again, you've never seen a character who can focus 100% on the task at hand while using the force to peak efficiency with the combat experience of three of the most dangerous characters in their respective worlds. (Relatively speaking, of course)

Keep in mind, the Force-sense isn't a catch all, though it obviously helps. I'd think of it as sort of a spider-sense.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Keep in mind, the Force-sense isn't a catch all, though it obviously helps. I'd think of it as sort of a spider-sense.

That's normally, with the system he is what the best force users are, 100% focused and attuned with the force. Hence why he is so much more effective with it.

That's what I call power meshing.

before u ban it completely, i doubt antro can teleport something that has been hurled at him. its simply moving too fast. so a blast he would have to dodge. and i think it more applies to large physical objects rather than small things like bullets. why not just limit it digi.

if not, we can restart the battle with my reduced power because ya cant have a power one second and not have it the other.

let me know ASAP

and the fact that bloodscream is a pseudovampire only means that hes not been bitten and his file doesnt say anything about reduced senses. the only way he is different is the weather control, non transformation, and non lethalness to the canon vulnerabilities. everything else holds

about your statement about "i dont kinow he had neck armor", if antro hada spider sense and i didnt state it, whose fault would that be?

ps. nakatu what part of my scanner isnt working dont u understand?

because ya cant have a power one second and not have it the other

I didn't ban the teleportation, I merely limited it so that it wasn't too overtly like TK. Does anyone else have a problem with this?? Because I honestly didn't think it would change anyone's strategy that much. Hell, even with it, it could disorient Nat's guy but wasn't really an overtly offensive maneuver.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Predators hunt animals with senses far beyond anything we on earth have, they know how to mask their scent. You won't see me coming.

hysterical

Actually, they have a very pungent and randy scent.

okay...well he's creeping up on me, and i can still sense him with my enhanced senses. so with my swords already drawn i do a quick back flip into a teleport.

what u do not know is that in the backflip i started to shoot my acid (you would never see it (u may smell it for a fraction of a moment, but u dont know what it is)

i reappear behind you, using one sword to block incase u can possibly counter. the acid hits you on your heels the same time one of my swords sings through thour neck.

your force sense cannot pick up suck a random attack. ive never seen it done. re: my explanation of how the force sense works.

how do i know where ur neck is or in fact where u are? as a vampire, i can see in the pitch black. i can smell the blood in u. the body heat u give off and the subtle variations in it from where u are most heavily padded in armor. i can hear your heart beating. and i can see the crushing of the grass whn u step on it to come to me.

as well as blocking, i teleport again. moments after i teleport (if u are still alive) u hear a loud crunching crunching noise far behind u.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
maul died like a b*tch. the only person less threatening than him was the marshmellow man from ghostbusters

HEY!.... Marshmallow Man would kick your amalgams ass

😛

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Also, Jinzin, in LOTDK 63 Batman yells at Az to take off the costume before they start fighting, but that's it.

Batman is soooo gay:

"take off your costume".... shyeaaaa...riiight!

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Keep in mind, the Force-sense isn't a catch all, though it obviously helps. I'd think of it as sort of a spider-sense.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
That's normally, with the system he is what the best force users are, 100% focused and attuned with the force. Hence why he is so much more effective with it.

i'd say less effective than Spider-sense.... Spidey gets a warning if people are watching him let alone about to shoot at him, the films have shown that Jedi can be taken by surprise by regular people (Stormtroopers) ... their senses do seem to work better when they focus though... but they are still far from perfect

I have also read quite a few Star Wars books, even when he becomes a Jedi Master, Luke still is not infallible

thats why a teleport attack can work against him. especially since hes not expecting it

Y'know who i think wins?

the fans?

Originally posted by Scoobless
i'd say less effective than Spider-sense.... Spidey gets a warning if people are watching him let alone about to shoot at him, the films have shown that Jedi can be taken by surprise by regular people (Stormtroopers) ... their senses do seem to work better when they focus though... but they are still far from perfect

I have also read quite a few Star Wars books, even when he becomes a Jedi Master, Luke still is not infallible

But he still doesn't have 100% concentration at all times, does he? Azrael is unique with the system in that he does not have room for anything except battle when the system is activated. He is concentrated to the point where he can ignore anything that isn't pertinent to the fight, he makes decisions in a split second, there is no hesitation. He's beyond any human, it's like giving him Deathstroke's abilities, but to a greater sense.

We all know how the force works, correct?

One can sense, feel, whatever, life and everything around it. With concentration powerful Jedi are able to spread their senses even further, like Yoda. Now, with someone who can completely clear their mind of anything and completely tap into the force, something that is nigh impossible for anyone else, they would be able to feel the shift the everything within a small distance, with no problems. They would sense movements the instant they begin. Hell, Obi wan was able to sense movements in battle when he was just a Padawan, this is a Sith Master's capabilities with complete focus.

Now, next points;

and the fact that bloodscream is a pseudovampire only means that hes not been bitten and his file doesnt say anything about reduced senses. the only way he is different is the weather control, non transformation, and non lethalness to the canon vulnerabilities. everything else holds

Why don't you actually READ THE COMICS instead of using bios. I mean seriously... like I said, bios aren't always very accurate. Bloodscream can be labelled as much as you want, but the fact of the matter is, he's just a filler villain for Wolverine to look badass kicking the shit out of.

about your statement about "i dont kinow he had neck armor", if antro hada spider sense and i didnt state it, whose fault would that be?

This would be a perfectly valid point if you proved that he did have a spider-sense, much like I proved that he has neck armor.

Actually, they have a very pungent and randy scent.

Their musk? I'm well aware. That doesn't mean they don't know how to cover it if need be. Human hunters can have some kickin' B.O., but they can wear scents to cover their smell or strengthen it as need be.

what u do not know is that in the backflip i started to shoot my acid (you would never see it (u may smell it for a fraction of a moment, but u dont know what it is)

Clan leader -> Acid resistant armor. Predator blood helps negate the effects of acid as well, BTW.

All of your combat plans seem to stem around the idea that I'm going to stand there and let it happen. I know you're moving before you move, there is no such thing as a random movement, I can sense your body shifting to move as it moves. Nevermind that Azrael is fast enough and skilled enough to tell you're moving anyways, and would catch you mid jump. You've got tin-can armor that is going to get shredded by my saber/glaive. Not to mention the fact that my shoulder cannon can just fire on you as you hop over me. Bang bang, plasma to the face.

Hitting my neck is the worst plan you can come up with, if my shoulders are even slightly lifted my shoulder armor is large enough to provide a cover for it. Not only that but hitting such a thin space is almost impossible when I'm moving as fast as I am.