Chenney's War.

Started by Spelljammer3 pages

Chenney's War.

Bush wanted Bin Laden,
Neoconservatives wanted Iraq.

When elected, Bush was opposed to "nation building," but Dick Cheney brought in eight fellow neocons who advocated "regime change" and re-building Iraq. This was before 9/11 and had nothing to do with Bush's war on terrorism.

Cheney's group all belonged to IASPS or PNAC. IASPS advocated regime change to increase Israeli security, while PNAC focused on our Middle East allies but named only Israel. Using 9/11, Cheney and friends convinced Bush to go against the long-standing conservative principles he held when elected.

The War Was a Major Neocon Project Well Before 9/11
(And no other group was proposing it.)

The neocons managed to get nine of their key people into the Bush Administration and they became the top nine architects of, and advocates for, the Iraq invasion. Without 9/11 they probably would not have succeeded, but by then they had published the strategy for the war and were perfectly positioned and well prepared to take advantage of it. Here's how they did it.

In 1996 a group of neocon policy analysts wrote a report on why the removal of Saddam was crucial to Israel and delivered it in person to the new Israeli Prime Minister, Netanyahu. Three of these became key proponents of the war in the Bush Administration.

In 1997 the neocons started PNAC, a foreign policy project, with a key objective of toppling Saddam. It included Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz as founders, as well as Richard Perle (who delivered the 1996 report to Netanyahu) as a prominent member.

In 1998, PNAC wrote an open letter to Clinton advocating Saddam’s removal by force. It was signed by Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Perle. Before 9/11, PNAC was publishing strategy proposals for the invasion which explained the psychology behind the “Shock and Awe” campaign used to open the war.

A week after 9/11 Rumsfeld called a meeting which published a letter proposing to invade Iraq even if it was not linked to 9/11. The letter focused mainly on Israel’s security needs and very little on Bin Laden. This is still available on the PNAC web site.

All that remained was to convince Bush, and they had him surrounded.

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The Neocons and their Interconnections

PNAC: Project for the New American Century. William Kristol, chairman.
Has such close ties with Rumsfeld's Defense Policy Board that when Rumsfeld
convened the Board a week after 9/11, PNAC published the letter
they drafted. See above.
IASPS: Institute for Advanced Strategic & Political Studies.
"www.iasps.org/about.htm::A Jerusalem-based think tank with an affiliated office in Washington, D.C."

William Kristol: Co-founder and chairman of PNAC. Son of neoconservative “godfather” Irving Kristol and editor of the neocon publication “The Weekly standard.”
Norman Podhoretz: Signer of PNAC Principles. Mentored by Irving Kristol. From 1960 to 1995, Editor-in-Chief of Commentary, the monthly publication of the American Jewish Committee, and a leading neocon publication.

1. Dick Cheney: Vice President.
2. Donald Rumsfeld: Secretary of Defense.
3. Paul Wolfowitz: Deputy Secretary of Defense until 2005.
4. Richard Perle: Chairman of Rumsfeld’s Defense Policy Board until 2003.
5. Douglas Feith: Undersecretary of Defense for Policy until 2005.
6. I. Lewis Libby: Dick Cheney's chief of staff.
7. David Wurmser: Middle East Adviser to Dick Cheney.
8. Elliot Abrams: National Security Adviser, Rep. for Middle Eastern Affairs
9. John Bolton: Undersecretary of State.

Charles Fairbanks: Deputy assistant secretary of the U.S. Department of State for Bush I where he served under Paul Wolfowitz, a college friend. source

The above 9 are listed in approximate order of their contribution to selling the Iraq War, but others from PNAC were also appointed to the administration.

So as you can see, the liberals are ludacris to weigh thier hatred on president Bush, who they should be pissed off at is Dick Chenney. SpellJammer never liked him..

chenneys a pug nosed gimp

WOW, now the closet neocon will blame the vice president but claim innocence for the commander in chief and leader of our country.

how desperate, sad and deluded.

what a half a tool

ummm... it sounds like you make a good point, though i dont really understand it all...

Originally posted by PVS
WOW, now the closet neocon will blame the vice president but claim innocence for the commander in chief and leader of our country.

how desperate, sad and deluded.

what a half a tool


Do you ever tire of being a complete *******? Because we sure do.

i think that blaming the neocons in general is worse than a lameduck pres

Originally posted by FeceMan
Do you ever tire of being a complete *******? Because we sure do.

what a weak and childish post. a simple insult with a claim that everyone (we) agrees. i think its naptime for you mr. cranky 🙄

ok, so you agree that bush is a puppet, coward, and a complete fraud for avoiding responsability as commander in chief? because thats what this thread states 😬

oh no wait, QUICK!!! time to reverse rudders 😱 ICEBERG AHEAD!!!!! BACKPEDAL!!! PACKPEDAL!!!!!

*double post*

Originally posted by PVS
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ok, so you agree that bush is a puppet, coward, and a complete fraud for avoiding responsability as commander in chief? because thats what this thread states 😬

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well its true

yes, deano it IS true. but now lets just sit back, have a cocktail, and observe the backpeddling that shall ensue

I still say Bush was overpowered by the darkside..

The Force was strong in him..
But he was not strong in The Force..

...backpeddling in the form of delusional connections between politics and a fictional religion. so now we've progressed from dragonball z to star wars.

either way bush was 'overpowered' and thus an innocent victim.
is that it?

Who is Chenney? 😕

he's technically our vice president.

tx.
we don't have vc president 😊

in reality, neither do we

we have a mafia with a talking monkey puppet figurehead

Originally posted by PVS
either way bush was 'overpowered' and thus an innocent victim.
is that it?

Yes, and okay, you want a more realistic approach?

Dick is like a powerful mob boss, he made Bush an offer he couldn't refuse.. using intimidation, money, and supirior intlilect he coerced the noble president into being his slave. Kindof like how you stick your chest out at SpellJammer, but SpellJammer takes it with a grain of salt. The most powerful liberal is Gerene Girrafolo. An unfunny crack-whore who would be giving handjobs on the street if people didn't hate the Catholics.. which says alot..

ok, time for a dose of reality.
bush is not a leader, was never a leader and WILL NEVER be a leader.
you paint the picture of a once great and powerful leader who was duped.

the reality is that he was always useless and nothing but a puppet who was grandfathered into a texas oil company, then grandfathered onto the texas governors office, then grandfathered into the most powerful seat in the world. the only thing he did right was beyond his contol, that being starting out his existance in one of the most powerful wombs in the world.

Originally posted by Spelljammer

Dick is like a powerful mob boss, he made Bush an offer he couldn't refuse.. using intimidation, money, and supirior intlilect he coerced the noble president into being his slave.

Noble? Please describe his nobility in detail please, aside from the drunk driving, drinking, drugs, inability to communicate a coherent thought, ability to ignore the suffering of others and a complete disregard for the poor or foreign relations, I have seen alot of questionable behaviour, but no nobility as of yet.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
Kindof like how you stick your chest out at SpellJammer, but SpellJammer takes it with a grain of salt.

Your comments often make you seem slightly insane, this referring to yourself in the first person just makes you look like a fool.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
The most powerful liberal is Gerene Girrafolo. An unfunny crack-whore who would be giving handjobs on the street if people didn't hate the Catholics.. which says alot...

Not only is this comment completely stupid, but it's either Janeane Garofalo or Janine Garofalo (I've seen it spelled as both) not Gerene. If you are going to try and go out of your way to be witty, knowing the correct name of the person you are mocking would help alot.

Originally posted by PVS
what a weak and childish post. a simple insult with a claim that everyone (we) agrees. i think its naptime for you mr. cranky 🙄

ok, so you agree that bush is a puppet, coward, and a complete fraud for avoiding responsability as commander in chief? because thats what this thread states 😬

oh no wait, QUICK!!! time to reverse rudders 😱 ICEBERG AHEAD!!!!! BACKPEDAL!!! PACKPEDAL!!!!!


PVS, would you really like to go through this discussion again? Because, if you do, we can simply resurrect an old thread and thus save the time and energy it would take for you to shut the hell up and slink away quietly.

On topic, it's not a stretch to believe that Cheney was one of the ones orchestrating the war in Iraq. It's hardly a vast jump of logic to conclude that there is something amiss when, as he faces criticism, he tells his criticizer to go **** himself.