Martial arts, wresting, kickboxing?
Do you meant UFC bullshit?
Because if you mean UFC bullshit, then its not martial arts, wrestling and kickboxing.
Wrestling, is not about breaking somebody's arm.
Martial arts is not about bringing down somebody, getting on top of them, and start beating the shit out of them. (Thats called being a thug).
The shit your talking about is crap and pointless. Sure, they're tough, but I still think an 160 pound guy who can kick and bunch, wont beat larry allen, who can bench press 700 pounds. Im sorry, but if it gets on top of him, allen, would throw him like a rag doll.
You say you know shit about martial arts, but riddle me this, isnt martial arts about bettering yourself, then trying to kill somebody?
Originally posted by StyleTime
See forumcrew? People like Botankus think that football players can just show up in the ring and beat trained fighters. Oh well, Janikowski wouldn't be the first football player to get mauled in the ring....or the largest.
Janikowski will end up like poor Aleksander.
People like Botankus also know when someone's using exaggeration....as forumcrew so aptly pointed out. 😉
Originally posted by botankus
People like Botankus also know when someone's using exaggeration....as forumcrew so aptly pointed out. 😉
Smasandian. The fighters in UFC are doing martial arts. Chuck Liddel is from the Koei Kan dojo of Karate. Wrestling, boxing, and kickboxing are all martial arts. Everyone thinks a martial art has to have some japanese name and be associated with ninjas. Those guys are also not thugs and most have college degrees. Most of them are nice as hell too.
And no, martial arts is not about bettering yourself with that zen buddhist crap. The word "martial" mean pertaining to violence for crying out loud. All real martial arts were created to maim or kill. What many of them has become today is a mockery. The purpose of martial arts is to fight, although not to just start fights unneccesarily.
Larry Allen may be strong but being able to throw someone off you doesn't win the fight. These fighters are extensively trained in grappling and are larger than 160 unless you mean like...lightweights. They would apply a submission on Larry's behind so fast it wouldn't be funny. I know it is hard to see for someone new to the sport, but even when these guys look like they are just pounding away, they are actually usually technique. Maintaining a dominant position on top of a grappler while throwing punches is actually more difficult than people think. I've had first hand experience with that one.
Originally posted by StyleTime
See forumcrew? People like Botankus think that football players can just show up in the ring and beat trained fighters. Oh well, Janikowski wouldn't be the first football player to get mauled in the ring....or the largest.
Janikowski will end up like poor Aleksander.
Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Shaquille O'Neal could beat any one's ass in the world.
Originally posted by Deano
its idiotic to thing a martial art is more exciting than soccer
Kicking someone's head>>>>>than kicking a ball.
Your saying they're is no betterment of yourself in any martial arts? None whatsoever?
You know, like meditation, all that non violence stuff?
It's all about jumping on people and trying to kill them?
I take away the comment about Larry Allen. You might be right. Those guys can probalby beat him up.
But it not because he's not tough enough, its that he doesnt know any fighting skills.
So it creates a unfair fight.
Give Ray Lewis the same fighting techniques the "martial arts" guy has, and then see who's tougher.
Originally posted by Smasandian
Your saying they're is no betterment of yourself in any martial arts? None whatsoever?
You know, like meditation, all that non violence stuff?
It's all about jumping on people and trying to kill them?I take away the comment about Larry Allen. You might be right. Those guys can probalby beat him up.
But it not because he's not tough enough, its that he doesnt know any fighting skills.
So it creates a unfair fight.Give Ray Lewis the same fighting techniques the "martial arts" guy has, and then see who's tougher.
I know it would be an unfair fight. YOU pit him up against fighters. I don't disagree with you completely however. Larry would destroy smaller or less skilled fighters easily. Strength is always a factor.
Yes, if Ray Lewis learned techniques he would be a decent fighter Heck, he could beat some of the fighters without training. Bob Sapp's winning the Japan K-1 due to some training is a prime example of a football player being a decent fighter. However, Ray would be a fighter if started fighting...not a football player.
By the way, I was not trying to offend you man. I was just playing around in my first post. I DO think football players are tough. I'm not attacking you or anything. 🙂
Still....
Combat sports>all others
Originally posted by Deano
american football is like cricket, hard to fathom out and hardly anyone cares
you constantly show your ignorace.. football is huge packers season tickets takes around 25 years to get. The more you talk to less intelligent you sound, because all you do is try to flame and make up stats.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Yes, there is "betterment" per se, but I thought you meant all that movie jizz about being one with the universe and ki channeling stuff.I know it would be an unfair fight. YOU pit him up against fighters. I don't disagree with you completely however. Larry would destroy smaller or less skilled fighters easily. Strength is always a factor.
Yes, if Ray Lewis learned techniques he would be a decent fighter Heck, he could beat some of the fighters without training. Bob Sapp's winning the Japan K-1 due to some training is a prime example of a football player being a decent fighter. However, Ray would be a fighter if started fighting...not a football player.
By the way, I was not trying to offend you man. I was just playing around in my first post. I DO think football players are tough. I'm not attacking you or anything. 🙂
Still....
Combat sports>all others
I know. It just you come across as a person who thinks martial arts is all about killing people. I know thats wrong.
No, I meant that martial arts is more than just beating people up.
And Im not offended at all. I just disagreed with you.
Yeah, deano, nonbody cares about football. NOOOObody. I guess being televised in over 200 countries doesnt really mean much. Or, that people like yourself, get soo angry about it.
I dont see anybody else doing that against soccer.
Originally posted by Smasandian
I know. It just you come across as a person who thinks martial arts is all about killing people. I know thats wrong.No, I meant that martial arts is more than just beating people up.
And Im not offended at all. I just disagreed with you.Yeah, deano, nonbody cares about football. NOOOObody. I guess being televised in over 200 countries doesnt really mean much. Or, that people like yourself, get soo angry about it.
I dont see anybody else doing that against soccer.
amazing given that there are only 193 countries in the world
😆 american football is televised in 200 countrys, cool. its a shame nobody in those countrys bother to watch the sport. what does that prove anyway, being viewed in 193 countries and 7 ghost countrys? soccer is the best and most exciting sport, live with it please.
Smasandian i am not angry, i am amused at the silly comments in this thread.
and forum crew im not ignorant. the day any sport beats soccer to the crown of most popular sport in the world, i'll commit suicide.
Originally posted by Deano
😆 american football is televised in 200 countrys, cool. its a shame nobody in those countrys bother to watch the sport. what does that prove anyway, being viewed in 193 countries and 7 ghost countrys? soccer is the best and most exciting sport, live with it please.Smasandian i am not angry, i am amused at the silly comments in this thread.
and forum crew im not ignorant. the day any sport beats soccer to the crown of most popular sport in the world, i'll commit suicide.