Originally posted by DizzleDitto
Spidey would win in a "who can kill everyone in a city fastest" contest, but that method woldn't work for a 5 minute spree. Or at least it woudn't work better than chucking grenades everywhere. If it was a much longer timeframe, I'd agree, but 5 minutes is not a lot of time...
How exactly is Batman getting to ditch his morals AND bring the Batmobile or whatever other resources he cares to into this, but Black Panther can't bring his own resources into it?
Pff. It's BP all the way. Deathstroke second. Even if you take away Batman's killing compunctions, I still rate him dead last ... because, I mean, what does he have readily available that's really suitable for killing people? Batarangs? 😆 The Batmobile? Wolverine with his claws is more effective than that, Spider-Man with his strength and webbing is WAY more effective, and Deathstroke and Black Panther each go completely off of the scale compared to that.
Batman doesn't really have much equipment that's very suitable for killing, alas. At all.
Hey, I bet it's because he doesn't kill! 😉
But I mean, yeah, if you take away BP's resources and leave him only what he can carry, it goes to Deathstroke. But then that also excludes Batman from using stuff he doesn't carry ... not that it matters since he's dead last regardless.
Originally posted by Orestes
How exactly is Batman getting to ditch his morals
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Uhh... if you didn't notice, this is a killing contest and there are good guys on the list. We have to assume the people on the list are trying to kill as fast and as much as they can or this would be a piss poor kill as fast and as much as you can contest. Regardless of morals.
The full question was this:
How exactly is Batman getting to ditch his morals AND bring the Batmobile or whatever other resources he cares to into this, but Black Panther can't bring his own resources into it?
If you want to answer me, could you at least answer the actual question? Thanks. 🙂
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Your one question was actually four questions and I only wanted/could answer one. The one that was totally obvious. Your welcome.
That's ridiculous. What you answered was taken totally out of context and wasn't answering my question -- which had EVERYTHING to do with what Black Panther was being DENIED by COMPARISON to Batman and really NOTHING to do with Batman specifically -- at ALL.
It's exactly like if I were to say, "Now why does everyone else get a semi-rational response, but I get someone whose reading comprehension is just slightly above that of a tadpole?" In that case, my question wouldn't so much be expressing concern with everyone else getting semi-rational responses as with the fact that I didn't also get one.
See the difference? 🙂
I do apologize for assuming that didn't need to be explained.
Originally posted by Orestes
That's ridiculous. What you answered was taken totally out of context and wasn't answering my question -- which had EVERYTHING to do with what Black Panther was being DENIED by COMPARISON to Batman and really NOTHING to do with Batman specifically -- at ALL.
See the difference? 🙂
What's this crap? Did you misplace the smiley or are you trying to play off your vanilla insult as a joke?
Wow. I can't believe you still think that's what I'm asking. Even after I explained so clearly that I wasn't concerned with Batman.
This is the first time I've met anyone here so completely incapable of understanding such a simple concept. I think (I'm not positive since I can only sometimes translate him) even wolverine888 occasionally understands what people say when it's that simple.
Color me impressed ... in a weird sort of way. I give up. You win. There's nothing I can ever do to explain to you the actual thrust of my simple question. 🙄
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
What are you talking about? I don't even care about your question. I was just commenting on how that [b]one part was incredibly thickheaded.Never heard of a stray remark? They're not just a myth.
Sweet zombie Jesus. [/B]
You'd need a lot of sugar to make it anything resembling "sweet"... I'd classify it more as "salty".
Now THAT'S a stray remark. Backhands all around. *smack* *smack*
Oh, and BP bringing his army is slightly less realistic than Batman bringing the Batmobile... Cuz he calls it by touching a button which he has pretty much all of the time. I see your point, but assembling an army would take a lot more than 5 minutes, where Batman tapping a button does not. And it's destruction potential is way above Wolverine's. Probably BP's too, assuming he didn't fly his troops in the day before all of this goes down.
And Wolverine? Beat Spiderman to exterminating a town? Not even close. BATMAN can fight for hours without tiring too badly. Spiderman's endurance is well above his, it won't really be a factor. His extermination capabilities are way the heck too much for Wolverine to beat with stamina and claws. Think about it, he will have to chase down each and every person in an entire city. Without range or a significant speed advantage, that'll take weeks. Spidey will be done within days.(I'm talking a mid size town... Not something like New York)
Anyways, I guess I would place them as such:
DeathStroke
Batman
Spiderman
Wolverine
Black panther
We know Deathstroke carries all sorts of murder devices, that's a given. Boom = death.
Batman, I'm not so sure about. He doesn't normally kill but I'm sure he has weapons to fight the beefier foes but I'm not sure how much of it he normally carries.
Spiderman has the webbing he can use to hurl objects/people around.
Wolverine has his nice long claws so he can score a lot of one hit kills and is naturally faster than he should be.
Black Panther I'm very fuzzy on. I know he has an energy knife and his hand claws but I'm not sure what else he usually has for offense. I just think a lot of people would survive past the 5 minute mark after getting tagged but then die of bleeding or whatever.
Now if the killing went on longer, I think Deathstroke and Batman would use their edge to Spiderman, at least, as they run out of weapons to throw. And Black Panther would move up because of his speed and more time for his guys to die.
Valid point, Dizzle -- it's probably not fair to assume BP has been prepping for this when, after all, there's no mention of prep-time.
In that case, I'm still going to go for Deathstroke, though. Spider-Man ... yeah, I'm with you on putting him ahead of Wolverine, but ... eh. You know what? You're right. If the setup is going to have all of the targets spread out all over the city ... and logically, it would ... Spider-Man has the mobility advantage over every last one of these guys if all they have access to is what they can carry.
I've changed my mind. Spider-Man WOULD be the winner here. Good argument. 😉
i think spiderman. he might not have explosives, but he can bench press 10 ton, a fast punch will shatter a human skull, alot quicker than wolverine impaling someone. he can use his webbing to suffocate people, he can swing through a crowd and clean up groups at a time, throw cars at crowds, plus move on to another area before anybody knows whats going on. he takes it through speed and strength, and hes a smart guy, he always manages to think of creative ways to solve problems.
Originally posted by Decay
i think spiderman. he might not have explosives, but he can bench press 10 ton, a fast punch will shatter a human skull, alot quicker than wolverine impaling someone. he can use his webbing to suffocate people, he can swing through a crowd and clean up groups at a time, throw cars at crowds, plus move on to another area before anybody knows whats going on. he takes it through speed and strength, and hes a smart guy, he always manages to think of creative ways to solve problems.
An unpulled punch from Spider-Man or being stabbed by Wolverine : for normal humans that comes down to the same thing : a certain death.