Anoon Bondara vs yoda
and i quote from star wars darth maul (the book) "...the twi lek jedi always lived in the force. always still and complacentas a pool of unknown depth, he was nevertheless one of the best fighters in the order. his skill with a lightsaber was second to none...."(that was anoon bandara's story)
but yoda was the master of the council so fight it out
He couldn't take Maul and Yoda would waste Maul in less than a minute - and he would do that quite effortless.
Yoda is simply the number one of the order in force use and lightsaber combat. When you hear people in the PT saying "No one except me can do that" that always means "No one except me and Yoda...". Hell...first thing you learn in the temple (according to "Shatterpoint"😉: Never contradict Yoda.
And if I might remind you: In the end, Maul was killed by a Padawan (!) so what do you think how good Anoon Bondara was if you keep the fact in mind that the only way he saw to stop Maul was to sacrifice his own life and blow Maul up ?
Yoda would school Anoon bad...
the twi lek jedi always lived in the force. always still and complacentas a pool of unknown depth, he was nevertheless one of the best fighters in the order. his skill with a lightsaber was second to none
Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
IT FREAKKIN SAYES HE"S HE IS THE BEST SWORD FIGHTER, and yoda is the best force user
Calm down. You have to look at that source sompared to others. Anoon is barely ever mentioned, much less said to be good. He went down against Maul faster than Qui-gon did. Anoon isn't very good. Don't take that quote literally.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Calm down. You have to look at that source sompared to others. Anoon is barely ever mentioned, much less said to be good. He went down against Maul faster than Qui-gon did. Anoon isn't very good. Don't take that quote literally.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Okay, first of all Anoon isn't very good? Okay, I can understand not thinking he could beat Yoda, or Mace, or even Qui-Gon but saying he's not good is just, well, dumb. He may not be the strongest but there's no point denying he is strong. As for going down faster than Qui-Gon, for one thing can you really tell how long the Anoon vs. Maul duel lasted by reading the book? For another thing, in the Qui-Gon duel they kept having to stop because of the energy doors. When they got just a small strench of uninterrupted battle it was over pretty fast. And Anoon would have laster longer but he created the explosion, thus ending the battle quickly and it nearly killed Maul.
Qui-Gon thought he could beat Maul and Anoon immediatly realized that he couldn't do that. See the difference ? Michael Reaves wrote "Shadowhunter" in 2001 so before AotC was released. That means he had the impression of TPM only. And what have we seen in TPM: Only three people fighting with lightsabers being Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Darth Maul and Maul killed Qui-Gon and nearly killed Kenobi. So Reaves of course had to think that Maul was one of the best.
But now add the experience from AotC and RotS and all the novels that were released. You have lightsaber prodigy Mace Windu, Yoda the walking Jedi Nemesis, Dooku the duelling master, Anakin and Obi-Wan as a badass Jedi team, Depa Billaba, Cin Drallig, Asajj Ventress...and so on...
Do you really think that Anoon is really good compared to them when he can't take Maul who got nearly killed by Darsha (a Padawan) and then was killed by Padawan Obi-Wan ?
Would you sacrifice your life to stop somebody you are close to in terms of fighting skills ? That was an action out of desperation and that is something that a "strong" Jedi would not have done...
Qui-Gon thought he could beat Maul and Anoon immediatly realized that he couldn't do that. See the difference ?
Michael Reaves wrote "Shadowhunter" in 2001 so before AotC was released. That means he had the impression of TPM only. And what have we seen in TPM: Only three people fighting with lightsabers being Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Darth Maul and Maul killed Qui-Gon and nearly killed Kenobi. So Reaves of course had to think that Maul was one of the best.
But now add the experience from AotC and RotS and all the novels that were released. You have lightsaber prodigy Mace Windu, Yoda the walking Jedi Nemesis, Dooku the duelling master, Anakin and Obi-Wan as a badass Jedi team, Depa Billaba, Cin Drallig, Asajj Ventress...and so on...
Do you really think that Anoon is really good compared to them when he can't take Maul who got nearly killed by Darsha (a Padawan) and then was killed by Padawan Obi-Wan ?
Would you sacrifice your life to stop somebody you are close to in terms of fighting skills ? That was an action out of desperation and that is something that a "strong" Jedi would not have done...
Originally posted by darthsith19
Yes, Anoon was smarter.
Really ? Give some proof that Qui-Gon wasn't able to defeat Maul. That fight didn't look like Maul being clearly superior and he was clearly superior to Anoon.
True. But to say Anoon is not even strong would be foolish. Anyone who is strong enough to stand a chance against Maul is strong.
He didn't have a chance against Maul. Period.
Yes, but were any of them (except Yoda and perhaps Mace and Dooku) stronger than Anoon in TPM?
Did you see Anoon Bondara at the Council somewhere ? Cin Drallig was lightsaber instructor at that point (he trained Kenobi before Kenobi became a Padawan) and Qui-Gon was on council level. So yes...Yoda, Mace, Dooku, Qui-Gon, Drallig and even Obi-Wan seem to be stronger than Anoon.
Yes. Darsha was basically a Knight and Maul didn't have as much trouble with her as he did with Anoon. And Padawan Obi-Wan was basically a Knight too and Maul was stronger than Obi-Wan Obi-Wan was just fortunate enough to catch Maul off guard.
Catching Maul off guard ? May I remind you that Obi-Wan did cut Maul's lightsaber in half and put him on his ass ? That was hardly catching him "off guard".
Anoon was very smart. He knew he could not win. Knowing that what all could he do. Run and probably be killed anyway, or sacrifice his own life to take Maul's and save the lives of his Padawan and her companions? Only a really powerful Jedi would have enough wits to sacrifice their own life for the better good.
Sorry...sacrifice your own life for the better good was part of the Jedi philosophy and has nothing to do with "power".
Really ? Give some proof that Qui-Gon wasn't able to defeat Maul. That fight didn't look like Maul being clearly superior and he was clearly superior to Anoon.
He didn't have a chance against Maul. Period.
Did you see Anoon Bondara at the Council somewhere ? Cin Drallig was lightsaber instructor at that point (he trained Kenobi before Kenobi became a Padawan) and Qui-Gon was on council level. So yes...Yoda, Mace, Dooku, Qui-Gon, Drallig and even Obi-Wan seem to be stronger than Anoon.
Catching Maul off guard ? May I remind you that Obi-Wan did cut Maul's lightsaber in half and put him on his ass ? That was hardly catching him "off guard".
Sorry...sacrifice your own life for the better good was part of the Jedi philosophy and has nothing to do with "power".
Originally posted by darthsith19
WHAT! Give proof Qui-Gon wasn't able to defeat Maul?! Dude, you did watch TPM, right?
Did you watch ROTS ? Can Dooku defeat ROTS Anakin ?
The point is that Maul did kill Qui-Gon after hitting him with a cheap shot (lightsaber hilt in Qui-Gon's face). That hardly makes him the uber superior duellist.
Why do you say that? Just because the fight didn't last very long?
If he had a chance he wouldn't have sacrificed his own life. Need some logic ?
Sorry Nai Fohl, but your off your rocker. Drallig at the time was probably still a Knight and only about 36 years old. So he may be able to win but I doubt it. As for TPM Obi-Wan... ❌
Where did you get Cin Dralligs birth date from, hm ? And TPM Obi-Wan still did manage to cut Maul's lightsaber in half and put Maul on his ass. Anoon didn't even come close to do something like that - so what ?
No, but he only defeated him by catching him off guard.
On the same level I can say Maul did only defeat Qui-Gon because catching him off guard and he just pushed Obi-Wan into that hole because catching him off guard.
Your saying Anoon was weak for sacrificing his life. But that would make him strong by being sensible enough to realise he was doomed and come up with a good plan even while fending off Maul.
That does NOT make him strong in terms of force powers and fighting skill. So what ?