read Wonderwoman #219. Superman flew WW to the Sun and tried to throw her in but she pulls out a Kryptonite ring and uses it on him. He then punches her all the way back to Earth!!!
When they got back Max Lord said the the whole fight took less than two minutes from start to finish.
Basically he went to the Sun, fought a little, then flew back in less than two minutes. and since light takes 8 min to get from the sun the earth i dont find it very debatable
Sometime superman is stupid and will stand there and take blast. Like he took a kick from Doomsday in the Death of Superman. Thor/Bill can see beings at super-speed and can react to it, Thor/bill will school superman in the art of war and after they are done with him,Orion is next he's tough but not tough enough. Superman will slug it out with powerful beings and that is not a good idea with Beta ray bill in strombreaker he and stardust destroyed three planets superman wouldn't survive after the first one.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Sometime superman is stupid and will stand there and take blast. Like he took a kick from Doomsday in the Death of Superman. Thor/Bill can see beings at super-speed and can react to it, Thor/bill will school superman in the art of war and after they are done with him,Orion is next he's tough but not tough enough. Superman will slug it out with powerful beings and that is not a good idea with Beta ray bill in strombreaker he and stardust destroyed three planets superman wouldn't survive after the first one.
so your saying that as soon as thor or bill start to fight someone with superspeed they speed is heightened to the lever of whoever their fighting? cause i have never seen thor mover no where near as fast as superman
The thing that's gonna win the battle for Thor and Bill here isn't their magic - Supes isn't AS vulnerable to that now as PreC days.
It's their battle experience and skill...
They're far better versed in the art of warfare and even if they're marginally slower or weaker (which would be by a tiny amount) their skill more than makes up for it.
I give this to Bill and Thor.
And I'm a Supes fan. ✅