Originally posted by Raven Guardia
If its an Opinion it can not be right or wrong, only if you say it as a fact can it be wrong.I can see why SJ doesn't like Liberals. Its people like you who give them all a bad rep. How is it stupid to defend the minority? I said wrong to a certain extent.SJ had wild beliefs, but its not like he was some crazed Psycho like you are making him out to be.
Yes if you said it just as opinion: I think the earth is Flat, In my opinion the Moon is made out of cheese.....yes those cannot be wrong (except you don't actually believe that then you are a liar though) .....but they can be very well be stupid and they can be wrong compared to facts.....
No, it's nonsense, compared to the rest of the Worlds Forces the Nazis were the minority ...you are on their side too? No, cause you don't argue on amounts of people argueing but on your own beliefs.....
Sj had stupid beliefs and he behaved childish....maybe not a Psycho but not someone a reasonable person want to be connected with.....
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
I said wrong to a certain extent. In my opinion SJ was only wrong when it came to politics. You just don't like him because he said what he thought. No matter how 'stupid' it was or wasn't.
Well, he was wrong in many things. He often posted things that he misrepresented as facts. when I proved him wrong or challenged these posts he either ran away, insulted me, or posted something irrelevant or stupid. There are many people here that post opinions different than mine, or say what they think, I do not dislike them for it.
I dislike people who intentionally mislead themselves or others through lies. I dislike people who make trouble and disturb others for their own entertainment on a constant basis. I dislike others for being cowardly, but not for honestly speaking their own mind.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
Spelljammer didn't gang up on people. Ganging up needs more then one person. He may have attacked members but he didn't gang up on them.
I refer you to Storms post (something I posted earlier). There are more examples if you cared to look. I doubt you will for fear of being proved wrong, but too late, Storm just did that.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
What does it matter why I defend him? whys it so important to you? are you writing a book? If you must know -he is my friend. Friends back one another up.
It is not so much important to me as it is interesting. Friends do back one another up. But a friend who backs up another friend knowing that they are wrong and that the friend behaves in a detrimental manner is no friend at all. I support my friends, but I am also honest with them, when they are being an ass, I tell them.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
If its an Opinion it can not be right or wrong, only if you say it as a fact can it be wrong.
You have been proven many accounts regarding opinons. That is a fact.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
I can see why SJ doesn't like Liberals. Its people like you who give them all a bad rep. How is it stupid to defend the minority? I said wrong to a certain extent.SJ had wild beliefs, but its not like he was some crazed Psycho like you are making him out to be.
To defend a minority for the sole fact that it is a minority is stupid.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
I dont think he was being serious there...I dont he was serious in alot of his attacks. He just likes to get peopled rowed up.
Well it doesn't matter what you think he intended does it? And posting for the sake of getting people all pissed off is just being a nuisance and a troll.
Originally posted by Bardock42I never said they weren't wrong compared to facts.
Yes if you said it just as opinion: I think the earth is Flat, In my opinion the Moon is made out of cheese.....yes those cannot be wrong (except you don't actually believe that then you are a liar though) .....but they can be very well be stupid and they can be wrong compared to facts.....No, it's nonsense, compared to the rest of the Worlds Forces the Nazis were the minority ...you are on their side too? No, cause you don't argue on amounts of people argueing but on your own beliefs.....
Sj had stupid beliefs and he behaved childish....maybe not a Psycho but not someone a reasonable person want to be connected with.....
comparing the Nazis to SJ is a bit exaggerated. I know he made a lot of Nazi comparison which was also exaggerated. But you cant compare people who murder others to someone like SJ who just verbal attacks people.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh I see..that makes it alright....NO IT DOESN'T...he just shouldn't have done it.....
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't think anyone took his bashing as a joke, to be honest. He was getting too personal, and was given plenty of chacnes.
well of course no one took it as a joke or he wouldn't be banned. And I agree some of the stuff he said was nasty. I know he attacked people which was wrong. But I still feel its not right for half the forum to gang up on him.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
Well, he was wrong in many things. He often posted things that he misrepresented as facts. when I proved him wrong or challenged these posts he either ran away, insulted me, or posted something irrelevant or stupid. There are many people here that post opinions different than mine, or say what they think, I do not dislike them for it.I dislike people who intentionally mislead themselves or others through lies. I dislike people who make trouble and disturb others for their own entertainment on a constant basis. I dislike others for being cowardly, but not for honestly speaking their own mind.
I refer you to Storms post (something I posted earlier). There are more examples if you cared to look. I doubt you will for fear of being proved wrong, but too late, Storm just did that.
It is not so much important to me as it is interesting. Friends do back one another up. But a friend who backs up another friend knowing that they are wrong and that the friend behaves in a detrimental manner is no friend at all. I support my friends, but I am also honest with them, when they are being an ass, I tell them.
You have been proven many accounts regarding opinons. That is a fact.
To defend a minority for the sole fact that it is a minority is stupid.
Well it doesn't matter what you think he intended does it? And posting for the sake of getting people all pissed off is just being a nuisance and a troll.
well as we all seen in the end he did speak his own mind. He said what he felt and thought.
oh god 🙄 whats up with you and your 'pals' always saying your afraid to be proved wrong? I am not afraid to be proved wrong. Its no big deal being proved wrong. I dont see how anyone can argue "your afraid to be proved wrong" and sound so superior about it.
I have told SJ many times in PM to watch what he does, that he will get banned, he went ahead and did it anyway.
I know what a fact is 😬
now see what you said to be about defending minorities because there the minority is stupid. Thats an Opinion.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
I never said they weren't wrong compared to facts.comparing the Nazis to SJ is a bit exaggerated. I know he made a lot of Nazi comparison which was also exaggerated. But you cant compare people who murder others to someone like SJ who just verbal attacks people.
Not all nazi's murdered people. Actually most didn't. However, they turned a blind eye to the ones that were and maintained the same beliefs. Insiting people to hate, encouraging people to hate, telling false truths and trying to back it up to seduce others to think as you, that's all pretty disgusting stuff. SJ was not a nazi (that I am aware of) but he was a jerk. Plain and simple.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
well of course no one took it as a joke or he wouldn't be banned. And I agree some of the stuff he said was nasty. I know he attacked people which was wrong. But I still feel its not right for half the forum to gang up on him.
If people where attacking him based on misunderstandings or lies that's one thing. But most criticisms have been backed with examples, some numerous. You reap what you sow.
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
I never said they weren't wrong compared to facts.comparing the Nazis to SJ is a bit exaggerated. I know he made a lot of Nazi comparison which was also exaggerated. But you cant compare people who murder others to someone like SJ who just verbal attacks people.
I didn't say what he did was right, He shouldn't have done the stuff he did. But he did. its over with.
well of course no one took it as a joke or he wouldn't be banned. And I agree some of the stuff he said was nasty. I know he attacked people which was wrong. But I still feel its not right for half the forum to gang up on him.
Indeed, but we can still have some talk over it can we not?
What the Hell, he and his gang were much worse......they were actually organised trolls......there's a difference between having similar opinions and forming a "Clique"