Can Superman Beat Buu?

Started by Avalonofthewind10 pages

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am noit Exxagerating..I did not once......this is just not true...you just lying, dismissing evidence, and fanboyism over the Reasonable Doubt you should have by now.

Its not shown that he changed the Sun...show that pic please......did he maybe use technology?.....

We are talking Kid Buu.

Umm..the eradicator IS kryptonian technology along with another civilazation with was even more advanced than Krypton. He was altering both the SUN and the EARTH itself at the same time under his own power. In kryptonian mode, he's basically an uber Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by TPinaPimp
Sorry buddy... you remember incorrectly.

Babidi created Kid Buu first, who was the strongest. After he absorbed his kills, he took on various aspects from them, weakening himself.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Umm..the eradicator IS kryptonian technology along with another civilazation with was even more advanced than Krypton. He was altering both the SUN and the EARTH itself at the same time under his own power. In kryptonian mode, he's basically an uber Silver Surfer.

Son it was Technology...a Feat Superman doesn't have......he might beat the person but just because something is able to alter the sun doesn't mean it's also stronger than YBuu or Superman.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Son it was Technology...a Feat Superman doesn't have......he might beat the person but just because something is able to alter the sun doesn't mean it's also stronger than YBuu or Superman.

Alter the sun, earth, telepathy, transmute any material into anything else. As strong as superman...etc etc.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Alter the sun, earth, telepathy, transmute any material into anything else. As strong as superman...etc etc.

Yes I know the Eradicator Rocks but it doesn't really say anything aboot Superman now does it?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am noit Exxagerating..I did not once......this is just not true...you just lying, dismissing evidence, and fanboyism over the Reasonable Doubt you should have by now.
Reasonable doubt brought on by htperbole, hearsay, lack os sufficient evidence and fanboyism?

I'm not dismissing anythng. YOU'D HAVE TO PRESENT IT BEFORE IT CAN BE DISMISSED.

So far you've shown a planet destroying might NOTHING MORE.

This level of power is insufficient. Superman survives things GREATER than planet destorying levels.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes I know the Eradicator Rocks but it doesn't really say anything aboot Superman now does it?
You mean other than Superman beat him when his power source was cut off? 🙄 Now who's dismissing evidence?

Originally posted by Creshosk
You mean other than Superman beat him when his power source was cut off? 🙄 Now who's dismissing evidence?

I am saying that the Eradicator can turn the sun from Yellow To Red doesn't mean that Superman can do that....

Originally posted by Creshosk
Reasonable doubt brought on by htperbole, hearsay, lack os sufficient evidence and fanboyism?

I'm not dismissing anythng. YOU'D HAVE TO PRESENT IT BEFORE IT CAN BE DISMISSED.

So far you've shown a planet destroying might NOTHING MORE.

This level of power is insufficient. Superman survives things GREATER than planet destorying levels.

So show me that Superman can destroy a Planet twice the size of the earth...if he can't...well I guess than both can endure each others attacks and it would be a draw...I have seden a lot of evidence that he can survive the attacks..but I haven't seen any proof that he could harm Buu...at all...

Bardock, Superman has moved a planet with his hands the size of earth. Considering this is controlled force (meaning he was able to distribute his strength so he didn't cut straight through the planet) this shows that he has physical strength in EXCESS of planet killers such as meteors large enough to destroy all life on earth with their impact (Which btw, don't even jar the planet from orbit. Think about that.)

Supes' strength > planetary mass > Goku as it stands.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
Bardock, Superman has moved a planet with his hands the size of earth. Considering this is controlled force (meaning he was able to distribute his strength so he didn't cut straight through the planet) this shows that he has physical strength in EXCESS of planet killers such as meteors large enough to destroy all life on earth with their impact (Which btw, don't even jar the planet from orbit. Think about that.)

Supes' strength > planetary mass > Goku as it stands.


Show me a pic Where Post-Supes did this and under what circumstances.

How is Buu...weaker than a Planet...he survived...the planet didn't.....

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am saying that the Eradicator can turn the sun from Yellow To Red doesn't mean that Superman can do that....
No, but he beat someone who could, He beat someone who removed his power source.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So show me that Superman can destroy a Planet twice the size of the earth.
Why is this a requirement? Has Buu really shown that level of durability? I thought his body was destroyed and had to regenerate afterwards.

Originally posted by Bardock42
..if he can't...well I guess than both can endure each others attacks and it would be a draw.
Oh yes because now without evidence surviving a plant destrucion is as great as surviving black hole level of srtength. 🙄 Care to prove that a planet destruction is as powerful as hell fire?

Originally posted by Bardock42
..I have seden a lot of evidence that he can survive the attacks.
No you haven't. 😕 how is planet destruction on par with hotter than the sun and black hole strength? 😬

Originally posted by Bardock42
.but I haven't seen any proof that he could harm Buu...at all...
YUou still need to prove Buu's durability being on par with the sun and black holes. somehow planet <sun<blackhole. 😬

Originally posted by Bardock42
Show me a pic Where Post-Supes did this and under what circumstances.

How is Buu...weaker than a Planet...he survived...the planet didn't.....

How is Buu stronger than the Sun, or a black hole, because he had to REGENERATE from a planet destroying level? 😬

Agreed. You are being ridiculous, Bardock. And the pic of Supes pushing a planet was shown on the Supes versus Goku thread. Somewhere around page 55, I believe.

Yes...but what does that actually show?

Buu was "destroyed" by his own blast ....not that it matters cause he can easily regenerate....

That'S not the point...again there's a difference between passive and active Strength...ok Superman can survive it..big deal...can he equal the destructive abilities of it? ...Care to proof that...care to proof he can in any way create as much destruction to even slightly bother Buu? (Notice Gokus fighting didn't bother him...he waws just making fun of it...)

Maybe it isn 't on par...but it's not aboot who would survive a Black hole but who would win nthe fight....

No, the point is you're not debating anymore; you're just showing judgmental favortism to the DBZ side of this debate. Whatever happens in DBZ to you is admissible as evidence even based on hearsay or your word alone while at the same time you demand that Superman supporters champion your points, accept them, and even submit to DBZ supporters spouting off vague power feats, ignoring valid points by opposing Supes supporters, etc.

Basically you're like a judge who's already decided that Person A is guilty, despite overwhelming evidence that he's not guilty.

And honestly? That's a dishonest debating tactic. You will convince no one with that kind of mentality. At least we have shown clear evidence and I have even played devil's advocate and argued a few points from your side.

I am sorry this is not true. I just adopted your style of debating....

I realized there's no way to proof it...so why not demand the proof from you....you cannot bring it...cause there is no proof.....you are so sure that Superman would win..I cannot see that in any way...I see there are much moren evidence for Superman..the guy had 60 years of comics though....of course there will be more exact facts for his feats...but does just because Akira Toriyama didn't write "A Genkidama is as strong as 5 BlackHoles" mean that it might not be?

Again it's the kind of mentalityas you bring across. I debated fair...now I demand the same poroof you demanded of us....you can't give it? Your Problem, not mine.

I am sorry this is not true. I just adopted your style of debating....

No, you didn't. You debate nothing like me. Please, don't insult me by saying you do.


I realized there's no way to proof it...

The word you're looking for is "prove", and again, this thread operates on the condition that a judgment CAN be made by evidence for both sides. If you believe that there is no way to prove a case either way you are NOT debating like me and essentially you are wasting our time. You contribute nothing to the debate if you're here to say basically "We cannot decide" and then in the same breath demanding evidence from Superman supporters despite the fact that they have shown more than enough evidence here and in two other threads. And when someone calls on your for evidence you basically say "Well, I posted it in the Buu thread" or "Well, this is what happened" and you argue semantics and hearsay. That is NOT debating. You need to go back to school and pay attention. What you are doing is being biased while maintaing a front of not being biased... and it's not working bardock...


so why not demand the proof from you....

1- The proof has been provided. Not my fault if you're too damn lazy to look for it. It's all over the Goku versus Superman thread, starting somewhere just before page 55, since I first started posting on it.

2- My side has proven up considerably. Goku supporters have shown jackshit. This means it is your turn to prove up, not mine. We have ample proof of Supes' strength, endurance, speed and feats. He is clearly better all the way around. Goku so far has little to nothing to back him up. If you really have so solid a case, then why don't you put it all together in one post. Go on... show us exactly what you've got to prove that Goku is winning. What's that, you say? You can't prove either way? Then shut up and go away. This thread is not for you.


you cannot bring it...cause there is no proof.....

You, sir, are a moron if you think this is the case.

you are so sure that Superman would win..I cannot see that in any way...

Logical error on your part. A blind man cannot see the sun; by your logic, it must not be there, huh? Ridiculous. Just because you cannot accept the fact that the evidence is overwhelmingly in Supes' favor and the oddsare as well (Which is the basis by which we determine a victor in these types of threads) doesn't mean it's not the case. So please... if you remain inconvinced, keep in mind that we can lead a horse to water, but we can't make him think, can we?


I see there are much moren evidence for Superman..the guy had 60 years of comics though....of course there will be more exact facts for his feats...but does just because Akira Toriyama didn't write "A Genkidama is as strong as 5 BlackHoles" mean that it might not be?

This is making up excuses because you don't want Goku to lose. This is bias on your part. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and drop the neutral facade; you are on Goku's side for this. And secondly, a Genkidama (Spirit Bomb) requires charging and concentration drawing on the lifeforce of everything from a small group to an entire solar system. This doesn't help Goku at all. He won't have the time to charge it, he won't be able to draw on much more than the lifeforce of the people on earth, and no Spirit bomb has ever shown enough power to effectively KO Supes. Seriously... why bring this up? This does nothing to prove your case! All you do is bring up one point, try to ram it down our throats, it fails, you pick up another and run with it. back and forth all week. Ridiculous.


Again it's the kind of mentalityas you bring across. I debated fair...now I demand the same poroof you demanded of us....you can't give it? Your Problem, not mine.

No, the problem is you, period. You can't debate. You're biased, you refuse to accept evident facts, and you refuse to render a judgment unless it is pro-DBZ. You are a fanboy and consider yourself ****ing owned.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes I know the Eradicator Rocks but it doesn't really say anything aboot Superman now does it?

Creshock already got to this for me (thanks bro) but I never said Supes can do what Eradicator can.... but the fact that he beat him (who is someone who would destroy Buu) already says enough about this fight.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes...but what does that actually show?

Buu was "destroyed" by his own blast ....not that it matters cause he can easily regenerate....

That'S not the point...again there's a difference between passive and active Strength...ok Superman can survive it..big deal...can he equal the destructive abilities of it? ...Care to proof that...care to proof he can in any way create as much destruction to even slightly bother Buu? (Notice Gokus fighting didn't bother him...he waws just making fun of it...)

Maybe it isn 't on par...but it's not aboot who would survive a Black hole but who would win nthe fight....

As I said before Goku needed outside help to defeat Kid Buu though (since Goku didn't have enough energy to use a full blasts Kamehameha wave on Kid Buu a second time, he had no choice but to ask for energy from people from Earth and new Namek along with Dende wishing his strength back with the dragonballs to kill him, since the Earthlings and Namekians energy was to low to finish Buu off. And ssj3 Goku actually whould have won the fight if his Kamehameha Wave whould have lasted a little longer (Goku's Kamehameha wave ended a little too fast, leaving a small cell left of Buu). Superman again can just melt Buu easy with Heat Vision to end the fight, Superman can beat the crap out Buu then finish him off with Heat Vision or use Ice Breath to freeze Buu then use Heat Vision. If there's a cell left, Superman has X-ray Vision to finish up what he started.

As I said before Buu can beaten to death with physical force. Here's SSJ3 Gotenks beating him up.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4462/4110067xm.gif

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5743/4110133mv.gif

And Mystic Gohan.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/8553/4112074lr.gif

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4981/4112080bi.gif

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/8434/4112097aw.gif

Vegetto beating the crap out of him too with physical force.

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http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6236/4203071kj.gif

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Physical force is enough to beat bang Buu up pretty bad.🙂 Superman is far stronger than any of them, Buu will be down in no time. Once Superman is done pounding him to death, he can just finish him off with Heat Vision.

Supes is using his Heat Vision to get the foe off of him.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5001/supes8cz.jpg

Supes shoots a beam of low-intensity Heat Vision at the Moon. People in the watch tower was blinded except for Plastic Man cause sense he had shades on. The Moon is very far from Earth, this shows the range Supes Heat Vision has.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9708/supermansheatvision24vv.jpg

In this pic it shows that Supes Heat Vision stated by them, "his vision is off the charts by any standard scientific measures". They can measure how hot a star is, but they cannot measure the temp of Supermans Heat Vision.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg

Supes heat vision hotter than the flames of hell...

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8331/burngod5rb.jpg

In this pic his power is waning under a red sun, but he still summoned enough Heat Vision to successfully power Jor-ELs planet-moving ion engines. The in this case had a mass 16 times that of Earth's.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6824/supermansheatvision17gy.jpg

Superman calculating the guys melting point. Wich also shows how much he holds back with his Heat Vision, to keep from killing his foes.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8360/08222005124926pm7ji.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3679/08222005125029pm5zg.jpg

Superman using his heat vision to heat Earth up cause the Earth was freezing up cause the Sun was being consumed by a canninbal planet. Superman basically saved the Earth from global warming with his heat vision. This prove that Superman is capable of melting planets with his Heat Vision and that he can engulf Buu with it, destroying every single cell in his body.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7923/supermansheatvison2np.jpg

Supes just spraying this guy with Heat Vision. If he wanted to, he could kill Buu easily with Heat Vision, without even letting him even breath, thus, destroying every cell in his body.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1535/0822311an.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1271/0822323nz.jpg

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Superman can freeze Buu then use Heat Vision to finish him off too.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3039/10fe1c15ie.jpg

He can use a combination of Heat Vision and Ice Breath/Beam too.

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1747/metallosupes8iq.jpg

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/7413/08222005124107pm7pl.jpg

If Buu tries to regenerate, Superman can just use X-ray Vision, to see and finish him off.

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4667/4207057ud.gif

Superman wins this fight.😄 🙂 😆

Originally posted by dvampire
As I said before Goku needed outside help to defeat Kid Buu though (since Goku didn't have enough energy to use a full blasts Kamehameha wave on Kid Buu a second time, he had no choice but to ask for energy from people from Earth and new Namek along with Dende wishing his strength back with the dragonballs to kill him, since the Earthlings and Namekians energy was to low to finish Buu off. And ssj3 Goku actually whould have won the fight if his Kamehameha Wave whould have lasted a little longer (Goku's Kamehameha wave ended a little too fast, leaving a small cell left of Buu). Superman again can just melt Buu easy with Heat Vision to end the fight, Superman can beat the crap out Buu then finish him off with Heat Vision or use Ice Breath to freeze Buu then use Heat Vision. If there's a cell left, Superman has X-ray Vision to finish up what he started.

As I said before Buu can beaten to death with physical force. Here's SSJ3 Gotenks beating him up.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4462/4110067xm.gif

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5743/4110133mv.gif

And Mystic Gohan.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/8553/4112074lr.gif

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4981/4112080bi.gif

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/8434/4112097aw.gif

Vegetto beating the crap out of him too with physical force.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4030/4202076mo.gif

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6236/4203071kj.gif

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3752/4203093lw.gif

Physical force is enough to beat bang Buu up pretty bad.🙂 Superman is far stronger than any of them, Buu will be down in no time. Once Superman is done pounding him to death, he can just finish him off with Heat Vision.

Supes is using his Heat Vision to get the foe off of him.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5001/supes8cz.jpg

Supes shoots a beam of low-intensity Heat Vision at the Moon. People in the watch tower was blinded except for Plastic Man cause sense he had shades on. The Moon is very far from Earth, this shows the range Supes Heat Vision has.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9708/supermansheatvision24vv.jpg

In this pic it shows that Supes Heat Vision stated by them, "his vision is off the charts by any standard scientific measures". They can measure how hot a star is, but they cannot measure the temp of Supermans Heat Vision.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg

Supes heat vision hotter than the flames of hell...

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8331/burngod5rb.jpg

In this pic his power is waning under a red sun, but he still summoned enough Heat Vision to successfully power Jor-ELs planet-moving ion engines. The in this case had a mass 16 times that of Earth's.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6824/supermansheatvision17gy.jpg

Superman calculating the guys melting point. Wich also shows how much he holds back with his Heat Vision, to keep from killing his foes.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8360/08222005124926pm7ji.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3679/08222005125029pm5zg.jpg

Superman using his heat vision to heat Earth up cause the Earth was freezing up cause the Sun was being consumed by a canninbal planet. Superman basically saved the Earth from global warming with his heat vision. This prove that Superman is capable of melting planets with his Heat Vision and that he can engulf Buu with it, destroying every single cell in his body.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7923/supermansheatvison2np.jpg

Supes just spraying this guy with Heat Vision. If he wanted to, he could kill Buu easily with Heat Vision, without even letting him even breath, thus, destroying every cell in his body.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1535/0822311an.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1271/0822323nz.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1271/0822323nz.jpg

Superman can freeze Buu then use Heat Vision to finish him off too.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3039/10fe1c15ie.jpg

He can use a combination of Heat Vision and Ice Breath/Beam too.

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1747/metallosupes8iq.jpg

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/7413/08222005124107pm7pl.jpg

If Buu tries to regenerate, Superman can just use X-ray Vision, to see and finish him off.

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4667/4207057ud.gif

Superman wins this fight.😄 🙂 😆

He doesn't even need to use X-ray vision...

He could use Microscopic vision...

or "Soul" Vision...